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hookedtrout
04/07/2005, 12:52 PM
Put a battery in the car Tuesday and it fired right up the first time. Took it for a cruise around the property and after a few adjustments on the choke it leveled right out and run like a sewing machine. Ordered up two new front tires to match the back as the back are already new and the front are cracked pretty bad. Getting the insurance put back on and the plates current and it's going in for exhaust.

Cory

mustang man
04/07/2005, 01:01 PM
How long has your car been sitting before you started it ?

bbeatty
04/07/2005, 02:49 PM
it leveled right out and run like a sewing machine.

Cory


Man I hope your wife has a better sewing machine than mine does. She can curse a blue streak with the best of them when she fires up that piece of junk!
;) :D ;D

hookedtrout
04/07/2005, 02:50 PM
How long has your car been sitting before you started it ?


I typically start it and run it a couple of times a year, this is the first time it has been started since last summer. However I haven't had any intentions on doing much with it until Paul mentioned a possible get together at some future date and that seems to have been the push I needed so I'm getting a modest restoration started. I'm not going to do a ground up at this point. I'm going to rebuild the engine, freshen up the upholstery and then give it a fresh paint job over the next couple of years. The engine runs great right now but it has 135,000 and I have an offer of a free rebuild if I pay for parts including balancing the engine so I think I'll run it a bit this summer as it is and find out if it has any other bugs in it, probably have the radiator cleaned and checked over, the brakes gone through and what ever else fun I can think of to have done to insure it's reliability.

Sure is fun to have it out and about again. I grew up in this car and it's spent the past 10 or so years in storage under a car cover so here we go again. I'm sure my wife will think I'm going through a mid life crisis but oh well. Took her to a car show the other day and she had more fun than I did, I had seen what I wanted and she wanted to continue on, she was having fun and she commented we needed to get my car out so I guess from that I have her support.

Hook

hcsstang
04/07/2005, 05:00 PM
::)She is probably leading you on. If she is like mine she said since you spent so much money on the car I want new kitchen cabinets. My sister tried to get me interested in a granite countertop. I put lamite countertop down.

hookedtrout
04/07/2005, 05:24 PM
::)She is probably leading you on. If she is like mine she said since you spent so much money on the car I want new kitchen cabinets. My sister tried to get me interested in a granite countertop. I put lamite countertop down.


I do all the house modifications and repairs myself, I have a nice wood shop with all the tools, I built all our kitchen cabinets and she loves them, I update, create and modify upon her request and I think she likes knowing that if she needs a change she just gives me the list. Were not fancy top of the line keep up with the Jones type. We like to have what works for our needs and we don't care if they are built out in our own little shop rather than paying the best cabinet maker top $ for them. We spend our time and money enjoying life and what it has to offer. We have a ton of toys ranging from boats, atv's, a Jeep, the Mustang, toy hauler camp trailer and the list goes on, we've pretty much adopted the idea that life was meant to enjoy rather than out do the neighbors. That's probably why I really don't have any interest in having a concours show car, I want one I can jump in and give the kids a ride, speaking of kids you should have seen the day-care kids (my wife runs a day-care) when I fired up the the Mustang. The exhaust is pretty much shot so it was pretty impressive. They ask every day if I'm getting out the race car. ;D That to me is more fun than impressing the guys at the car show.

Anyway the wife was drooling over some of the cars at the show (a new yellow GTO was at the top of her list) so I think it was a genuine "This could be fun" kind of reaction.

Hook

68gt390
04/07/2005, 05:56 PM
Hook;
That's what it's all about, enjoy life. I have these real estate folks calling me all the time saying "did you know you could move up in the style of home you have" and I just tell them I'm prefectly happy with my small dollar home (it's a roof over my head) and besides over the years I've added the creature comforts I wanted so that's enough. Besides, like you said if I tried to keep up with the Jones, I wouldn't have my CS or my GT for that fact. Think I'll stay where I'm at.

I took my CS out yesterday and it felt great. Not like driving my Toyota. ;D Guess I'm kinda fortunate in that my girlfriend likes driving the car's as much as I do. Now if we can just keep the gas tanks full this summer that'll be the real test.

Don ;)

hookedtrout
04/07/2005, 07:12 PM
We bought our home from family and it consisted of 8 acres on the Henry's Fork of the Snake River, I fly fish all the time so that was perfect. The house was built in the 30's and it is old but it's solid and it's square, takes a candle to heat the thing as it was originally a log home and they put stucko on the outside, thick walls means cool summers and warm winters. It also had all the outbuildings including the 2 car garage and shop and another garage and several storage sheds and a barn. All for $56,000 about 10 years ago so we aren't in over our head on the house, in fact the house cost me less than a years salary so we can enjoy the good times and hopefully be set up enough to hit an early retirement. We have friends that are climbing the perfect house ladder and maybe that's what they need, I'm just glad I didn't get wrapped up in all that because there is so much more to life than having the fanciest house on the block.

Our modest old house has 5 bedrooms so it has plenty of room, we've done quite a bit of remodeling and there are still a lot of things we may do however as we grow those "Beauty" things take a much farther back seat to all the fun. If it aint broke we aint fixin it is pretty much our motto. We do the required maintenance and repair anything that needs repaired but the glitz and glammor things...well. This offers us like you said the opportunity to have the play things we enjoy and we go camping and atving and all the other things a lot and they are soon to include hitting all the local show and shine car shows with the Mustang. You are right on the gas and I kick myself in the butt for not taking my toy hauler down and filling the fuel tanks on it before the price got so high so I had a little reserve of the cheapper stuff. Oh well!

Hook

rvrtrash
04/08/2005, 01:09 AM
Hey Hook, I'm glad that deep throaty rumbling sound got you all fired up again! If your wife says you're in a mid-life crisis because of the car, just do like I do--"That can't be right dear, I never grew up to start with". ;D
Steve

hookedtrout
04/08/2005, 02:31 AM
Perfect Steve I'm going to use that! ;D

Hook

hookedtrout
04/08/2005, 04:11 PM
Picked up the new tires today and put them on, picked up some licence plates and registration, stopped at my insurance agent and told him to give Haggarty a call, put on the new tires and took it for another spin around a country block or two.

Sure is nice playing with the car now compared to my younger days. I now have an air compressor, floor jacks, garage, nice tools in a nice tool box easy to locate and the list goes on. ;D Used to be in the back yard, in the rain with a can full of all the cheap tools but the ones I needed and all the maintenance work was so the car would run because I needed it to get back and forth to work. Now it's all for fun and the bumps along the way don't seem to be irritating at all. Didn't seem like the blinkers were working...oh well another excuse to go play with it tomorrow. ;)

Hook

case12
04/09/2005, 07:32 AM
Hook. Sounds like you've got "car fever" now. I suffer from the same disease. I have told my wife it is incurable, and the only way to treat it is with more tools, car jacks, an account with Mustangs Unlimited and a bigger garage. Sounds like you are treating your fever the same way. :)Casey

nfrntau
04/09/2005, 07:43 AM
Hook,
You forgot to mention the most important car tool of my youth. The jumper cables in the trunk! Those were the days of driving until you ran out of gas, parking the car when that happened, and then coming back in a week or whenever when you had $1 or 2 for gas to put 2,3,4,5 gallons in till you ran out of gas again.
Back then didn't have to worry if your car would still be there.
Bill

hookedtrout
04/09/2005, 02:20 PM
Oh so true all of it. ;D Speaking of accounts with Mustang ???? Anyone have a preference? California Mustang, Oklahoma, etc etc. I had a current California Mustang add magazine in front of me and went to the Oklahoma web site and found the Calif prices to be lower on the item I was looking at. $12 Ok, $9 CA it was the interior paints?

Anyone do any extensive price checking? I realize this is just one item.

Hook

case12
04/09/2005, 02:37 PM
I think I have used almost all of them! Mustangs Unlimited I have only tried once (for a front end kit for the GT/CS), but they were curtious, reasonably priced, and fast shipping. I use Larry's Mustang a lot because their prices and parts seem good, but they get orders mixed up (though they always remedy the problem). I have tried Paddock - way too expensive on shipping. I have tried California Mustang, but they seemed expensive. I have also used John's Mustang (but one time on a weekend I got what seemed to be their 'outsourced order center in India' - Not sure they knew what a Mustang is). Tony Branda is very knowlegable and curtious but quite expensive too. Lastly, CJ Pony is middle of the road on prices, but somewhat low on response (I once bought a set of Mach 1 wheels from them and one was warped and they just passed me off to the source with no help).

My favorties are Larrys, and Mustangs Unlimited for now.

I have never used NPD or Year One. Casey

hookedtrout
04/09/2005, 05:58 PM
Good info, thanks Casey.

Hook

390cs68rcode
04/09/2005, 07:09 PM
I have also used John's Mustang (but one time on a weekend I got what seemed to be their 'outsourced order center in India'

No, you just happened to talk to John's wife :). She has a HEAVY Vietnamese accent. All his other employees are Hispanic.

I would like to say I go to John's in person 2-3 times a week and can say he has some good NOS parts and usually stocks just about everything. Give them a shot.

If John's does not have it then I use NPD since they have everything all the time.

case12
04/09/2005, 07:39 PM
Thanks for clarifying on Johns Mustang. I had always had good dealings with them until that one time. I had a real hard time explaining differences to her between master power brake cylinder caps for 66 vs 68 and got a little frustrated. Your comment will have me checking them out again. Guess I should never assume too much. Thanks, Casey

68gt390
04/09/2005, 07:52 PM
Guess I'm lucky compared some since I have two Mustang restoration sources here in Columbus, Ohio at my disposal. I have tried CJ Pony Parts and NPD and both sent me the wrong parts and CJ took several weeks to get what I needed. Most of my parts I acquire from KAR here in my local area. By the time I factor in shipping cost and time to get the parts it's just easier for me to go to KAR plus, anytime I have a questions all I have to do is call or take the car there and there shop personnel are always happy to help. It's definitely an advantage. Requested catalogues from Year One twice and have yet to get one. Even if I received one now don't think I'd use them.

Hey Casey: How are the LED tail lights working out? Would be interested to hear. Am getting ready to purchase a set in the next few weeks.

Don ;)

390cs68rcode
04/10/2005, 04:51 AM
Don

I have a set of the LED taillights from mustangproject.com and they work pretty good so far.

68gt390
04/10/2005, 06:24 AM
Don

I have a set of the LED taillights from mustangproject.com and they work pretty good so far.


Thanks for the info. Ever since I found their add I've been interested in them. Besides, anything I can do to take advantage of cutting down on the electrical pull through the dreaded Ford light switch. I've already had one melt on me. :'(

Don

390cs68rcode
04/10/2005, 04:09 PM
Don

I have a set of the LED taillights from mustangproject.com and they work pretty good so far.


Thanks for the info. Ever since I found their add I've been interested in them. Besides, anything I can do to take advantage of cutting down on the electrical pull through the dreaded Ford light switch. I've already had one melt on me. :'(

Don


takes 10 minutes to install. Give it a shot.

case12
04/10/2005, 06:59 PM
The lights from mustangproject are super. EASY to install. The led panels just go right into the bulb socket (I suggest gently using a socket wrench to twist the panels into the sockets), and the small electronic module plugs right in place of the turn signal relay can right under the dash. And they are very bright. I love them, get compliments on them, and they turn heads (I can see people pointing at the back of my car when I am turning in traffic). So, they change nothing of the originality of the vehicle and are really great. The guy I talked to on the phone to ask a question was really helpful too. If you want sequential tail lights, this is the way to go. (I notice they also have led modules for the front turn signals too - but I figured a bulb was cheaper for the same effect). Casey

hookedtrout
04/12/2005, 12:35 AM
Insurance agent came out and took some pictures, should have Haggarty coverage by Wednesday. ;D $160 a year for coverage. Getting closer to the road every day. ;D

Hook

rvrtrash
04/12/2005, 09:44 AM
Hey Hook, on the parts vendor issues, I've had big problems with Mustangs Unlimited and won't use them again unless they're the only ones that have the item I need. If you need to send something back to NPD they charge restocking. I've been using Year One whenever possible. They are a little higher but they took back some parts I ordered and decided not to use after a year and a half with no quibbles and no charges.
Steve

hookedtrout
04/12/2005, 09:49 AM
Thanks Steve.

Hook

hookedtrout
04/12/2005, 09:56 AM
Insurance agent just called back and he sent them pictures and a vin and the final numbers are $136 a year for a starting point of $10,000.

Hook

Sarge
04/12/2005, 03:31 PM
JB or Casey,
Do the LED lights look original when the taillight lens is back in place, and the brake pedal stepped on? I have been anxious to try this, but didn't want to look like I have LED's in a 37 year old car.
Thanks,
Robert

case12
04/12/2005, 04:01 PM
I cant tell they are LEDs like on new cars because the lens was design to diffuse the light. I think new cars must use clear lenses, and so the LEDs stand out more. So, they look completely stock to me except brighter. I am very happy with them. Casey

390cs68rcode
04/12/2005, 04:14 PM
ditto what Casey said

the lights just look a bunch brighter, you cannot tell they are LED's. I recommend them 100%

68MustangHCS
04/12/2005, 10:22 PM
Insurance agent just called back and he sent them pictures and a vin and the final numbers are $136 a year for a starting point of $10,000.

Hook


I sent mine off, with pictures and they agreed to $20,000 value and $175 a year for full coverage and $0 deductible. I used Hagarty. They are very helpful, and very inexpensive. They blew Statefarm out the door.

hookedtrout
04/13/2005, 01:42 AM
So far Hagarty seems pretty good to me, I'll bump my value up to $20 when I get it refinished. Like to talk to someone that has made a claim with Hagarty and see how they are to deal with after an accident. But it's like my agent informed me, Hagarty is reasonable on cost because they realize that they are dealing with owners that value their cars pretty highly and the cars are very well taken care of and protected.

Hook

Sarge
04/14/2005, 12:07 PM
Thanks guys, I'm "sold" on them. Now gotta find and order them.
Robert

case12
04/14/2005, 03:18 PM
Robert, here is the link:
http://www.mustangproject.com/
Casey

hookedtrout
04/14/2005, 04:21 PM
Oh sure! Here you guys are talking up the sequentials while my turn signals aren't working. ::)

Cruised it today signals or not. ;D Keep in mind I live in a rural back country area, no one even knows what turn signals are anyway. If ya'll hadn't talked about the sequentials I wouldn't even know mine weren't working. ::)

Looks like it's going to be a little bit at a time here so I don't ruin anything, my little cruise today resulted in an antifreeze stripe down the middle of the road. Looks to be the rad-cap as all the hoses look good. We won't get to far from home for a few days till we build some confidence. Picked up a new cap so here I go again wish me luck. It is running awesome however, even when it's blowing antifreeze.

Hook

hookedtrout
04/15/2005, 07:40 AM
Put the new rad-cap on and took her out again last night and no more antifreeze stripes on the road. ;D Did leave a few black stripes however and my 21 year old son was impressed. ;)

Hook

rvrtrash
04/15/2005, 10:12 AM
See, I told you none of us have ever grown up!
Steve

case12
04/15/2005, 10:16 AM
Do your tail lights and brake lights work, and you are just missing the turn signals (front and back)? Casey

hookedtrout
04/15/2005, 07:59 PM
Do your tail lights and brake lights work, and you are just missing the turn signals (front and back)? Casey


Everything works except the turn signals front and rear including the hazard lights. I put in a new flasher unit, did no good, I still have no turn signals. :'(

Cory

hookedtrout
04/15/2005, 08:08 PM
While out spinning the wheels I noticed I had quite a pull to the left when braking so I went down to Parts Service and picked up new spring kits, new shoes, new wheel cylinders, new adjusters , new bearings, and some bearing grease. I got the left side tore down and all put back together new and I now have no pulling, the cylinder was bad. The right side is good but it's coming apart some time this weekend and it'll all be new as well. The old shoes were in good shape with lots of life left but out they go. Might as well just get everything new. Spending about $100 a day on average since I've had it back out. ;D Should be fresh as a daisy pretty soon.

Hook

68MustangHCS
04/16/2005, 11:50 AM
Do your tail lights and brake lights work, and you are just missing the turn signals (front and back)? Casey


Everything works except the turn signals front and rear including the hazard lights. I put in a new flasher unit, did no good, I still have no turn signals. :'(

Cory


I posted some wiring diagram links that might help you trace your problems. Look in the forum for "Wiring Diagrams"

68gt390
04/16/2005, 09:25 PM
Hook;
That's the best way to go. Swap everything out. I had a 67 Fastback and when I did the breaks I only put in new wheel cylinders in the front. On my way from California to Nebraska I blew out the rear cylinders. I learned a valuable lesson on that trip. Sounds like you've got a plan and that's the main thing. Good luck.

Don ;)

hookedtrout
04/17/2005, 03:22 PM
Got the right front completely rebuilt. Braking great so it's on to something else.

Hook

Sarge
04/26/2005, 08:29 PM
OK, I got the LED/PCB lights installed, not much of a problem. I had to "adjust" the PCBs so that the "U" shaped LED layouts all were the same. The lights are very bright, and this is a definate improvement!!! It is also kinda cool that the brake lights are sequential and go from inboard to outboard when you press the brake pedal.

One problem: When the ignition key is on, everything works fine. Brakes, turn signals, headlights turned on, etc. When the ignition key is off and I step on the brakes, only the left side brake lights turn on. As electrical is "not my bag", does anyone have a suggestion? It worked with the previous setup, but I also have the "dynamite sticks" which gave it the sequential taillights. I do not really want to cut into the wiring, as it is such an impossibility to find a decent wiring harness that is not three decades old. Suggestions?
Thanks, Robert

case12
04/27/2005, 09:48 AM
Robert - Mine does not have this issue, but I had a stock set up for the GT/CS (no dynamite sticks). I think the instructions were different for Shelbys, or those with dynamite sticks, and required some cutting. A friend of mine with a 68 Shelby convertible just converted his over and I will ask him what he did, but I know he had to do some cutting to take out the dynamite sticks. BTW, I had to do some adjusting of the LED boards also for them to fit (I loosened the nut, twisted the board into the light socket with a socket driver, adjusted the board position, and then tightened the nut). I hope it works out for you. Casey

case12
04/27/2005, 10:29 AM
Robert - another thing you wrote just struck me. The brake lights should not be sequential - I think that is not legal. Only the turn signals should be sequential, and of course when braking and turn signaling then the side signaled would be sequential. Maybe I misread your post? Casey

Sarge
04/27/2005, 06:02 PM
Casey,
You read the post correctly, my brake lights are sequential as well. I think this may be because of the dynamite sticks, but it's funny that it didn't happen before... Must be some kind of "sequential hooked into sequential" problem. Let me know about your friend's answer.
Thanks, Robert

Sarge
04/27/2005, 06:04 PM
OOPS, I need to modify the last post: When I press the brakes, they light up from inboard to outboard, and then stay lit. They do not "cycle thru continuously" like the blinker does.
Robert

case12
04/27/2005, 07:01 PM
Robert, They are not supposed to do that, so I will check with my friend on what he did. The instructions should show what needs to be taken out (mine do), and hopefully it is obvious since the dynamite sticks had to have been added. Also, I called MustangProjects and the guy was really helpful. The instructions say they will provide a retrofit harness at no extra charge. I am sure they would talk you through it - Let them know we on this site are giving them business! I am sorry you are having trouble as I didnt know you had dynamite sticks already installed, and that makes it a little more work to switch over. I still think you will be happy with them once we are done. Casey

case12
05/02/2005, 08:21 AM
Robert, I talked to my friend about how he did it on this Shelby, but I am not sure this will work for you, since maybe the "add-on" dynamite stick is different from Shelby? Anyway, he said it took him some time, but it turned out to be simple:

Leave the ground bypass in place (he said this is an obvious wire), and take the 2 wires coming into the dynamite stick and connect them to the 3 wires coming out of the dynamite stick. He said he just connected them all together and it worked. This is the part I dont get, as I would at least think there is a left/right requirement for doing this. Maybe you can look at your dynamite stick and let me know how many wires in and out you have, and I will ask again.

Also, have you tried the guy at mustangsproject yet? Casey

Sarge
05/02/2005, 11:36 AM
Casey,
I haven't tried either yet. Wedding to go to on Saturday, and helped a friend move on Sunday. I will be on it this weekend though, and also call the folks at Mustang Project tomorrow.
Thanks, Robert

our special
05/02/2005, 06:22 PM
Sarge, I don't know if you've spoken with the folks at Mustang Projects yet, but if you go to their web page mustangproject.com, click on FREE STUFF. When you get to that page, scroll down to How to install Mustang Project LED seqential taillights - shelby-standard 67-68.
When you click on that, scroll down to page 5 and it will explain about hooking up the sequentials on the 67-68 shelby.
The instruction sheet that came with my kit explained this aswell.
Hopefully I explained this clear enough for you to find.

Dave

Sarge
05/03/2005, 02:48 PM
Thanks for the replies. I have printed the manual, and Casey's comments and will look into it this weekend!
Robert

hookedtrout
05/03/2005, 06:50 PM
Put in the new heater core and took out the rags and floor mats catching the drips and cleaned it all up and put it back together. No drips yet, we will see. I also picked up an NOS rectangular based antenna, I was going to go round but I'm just positive the antenna on it when I bought it was rectangular and for some reason it just needs to be that way again for my own sanity. Installed it and took the car for another spin to pick up Squeak from school. Oh boy, the first graders love it.

Hook

hcsstang
05/03/2005, 06:53 PM
:D What about the teacher????

BroadwayBlue
05/04/2005, 08:13 PM
Robert - another thing you wrote just struck me. The brake lights should not be sequential - I think that is not legal. Only the turn signals should be sequential, and of course when braking and turn signaling then the side signaled would be sequential. Maybe I misread your post? Casey


I have sequential taillights on my 96 GT from Mustangs Unlimited (Classic Design Concepts) and they work the same way. When I press the brake the inside lights go on first and then go outward.

Speaking of Mustangs Unlimited - have you guys had issues with the CT or GA location? I've been to the CT one for a show and shopping and it was OK. When I ordered the sequential lights the first time they actually sent me the original set that someone returned. (You get credit for the original set if you return them) I got the impression they didn't believe me but they eventually agreed to take them back and exchange them. I've been requesting catalogs the last few years though and haven't received them.

Rich

hookedtrout
05/06/2005, 09:42 AM
:D What about the teacher????


Think if I give her a spin Squeak will get straight A's? ;) Well I guess in first grade it would be straight S's.

Hook