View Full Version : GTCS, true or false


Mustanger
04/28/2005, 12:09 PM
What do you guys think:

http://used-cars.autos.yahoo.com/usedcars/detail/index.html?cid=automobiles-1114440575-8496663&dst=300.00&rsr=bWFrZT1GT1JEJm1vZGVsPU1VU1Q mY2xfeT0xOTYwJmNoX3k9MTk3MCZjbF9wcmljZT0mY2hfcHJpY 2U9JmNsX21pPSZjaF9taT0mY2s9Jmd1cj0zMDAmY3N6PTkxNzA 5JnZ0eXBlPWF1dG9zJm1rPUZvcmQmbW89TXVzdGFuZw--#imgpop

(If you can't link over, go to yahoo website, select autos, select Ford, Mustang, 1960-1970, California, it's in the Bay Area.)

The Side scoops are missing the GT/CS, and in the description, it says its a 1967 ??? Sloppy, honest mistakes, or fake ??? >:(

Mosesatm
04/28/2005, 12:19 PM
For some reason I can't find it. It listed 6 cars but none of them match your description.

Mosesatm
04/28/2005, 12:24 PM
Here is another strange '67. It isn't listed as a GT/CS or anything similar but take a look at the rear of the car. I wonder if those parts are aftermarket or if they came from a GT/CSl.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6236&item=45463276 85&rd=1#ebayphotohosting

Mustanger
04/28/2005, 12:28 PM
I just tried it again, and it's working, I went through the method of clicking on the link (for some reason, it didn't underline itself properly, so you have to copy and paste in the address field), and also by starting over by going to Yahoo Autos, and going step by step, both methods worked. I hope you can get it :-\

Anyway, did anyone else get to see it ???

Mosesatm
04/28/2005, 12:44 PM
Cut and paste worked.

I'll bet it's a '67 with all the CS parts on it so in his mind it's a '67 California Special, not understanding that a GT/CS is more than just parts. Otherwise parts are just parts.

Or, maybe there was one lone GT/CS built in 1967 as an experiment and this is that car. The guy doesn't realize what he has and he's giving it away for only $8,000!!!

hookedtrout
04/28/2005, 01:14 PM
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Hook

Mosesatm
04/28/2005, 01:19 PM
What'l they think of next!

BroadwayBlue
04/28/2005, 01:36 PM
???

Isn't this the same car that was on eBAY last week with a starting bid of $19,000??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6236&item=45432046 69&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Now they only want $8,000 or Best Offer?

Maybe the 0 (zero) bids made a difference.

Rich

Talan423
04/28/2005, 01:40 PM
the yahoo car mentioned looks like a 68 to me. has 68 rear quarter panels (w/reflector). has 68 front fenders. has 68 interior door latches, and if you look at the inside near the driver side 1/4 window you can see the 68 shoulder harness seat belt hanging down. also has the 68 lap belt on the floor of the rear passenger side. the scoop decal is no big deal, have seen many cars with wrong decals. this car might be worth a look for only $8k. would look into the marti report first of course.

Mustanger
04/28/2005, 01:47 PM
???

Isn't this the same car that was on eBAY last week with a starting bid of $19,000??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6236&item=45432046 69&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Maybe the 0 (zero) bids made a difference.

Rich


Good Eye!!! :D Funny how this car used to be at Loda, Illinois, and now it's in the Bay Area in California?? I see that some of the same verbage was used over again.
But really is interesting how E-bay was asking $19k, and now Yahoo Autos is asking $8k - what gives ???

bbeatty
04/28/2005, 01:50 PM
Isn't this the same car that was on eBAY last week with a starting bid of $19,000??






Good Catch! ;)


Did you notice last week the car was in Illinois and now it's in California? ??? ::)

Talan423
04/28/2005, 01:53 PM
sure looks the same to me. sounds kinda strange now????? that's quite a drop in price. noticed on the ebay sight the original grille is missing and no foglamps, although it does have the hood lock mounts and locks. it isn't in the registry but does fall within the gt/cs production numbers. ebay is listed for sale in illinois, yahoo is listed for sale in california. something doesn't add up on this car???

Mustanger
04/28/2005, 01:55 PM
If you check out the E-bay link, and study the pictures, you'll notice that the front view, though it's cut off, seems to show an incorrect grill (looks like the horse and corral are there). But again, it could be a real GT/CS ... Marti should be able to verify this ;)

BroadwayBlue
04/28/2005, 08:25 PM
Actually on both Yahoo and eBay the listing title is has it as a 68 and it has the 68 codes according to the pictures of the codes. It looks like the 67 was just a typo in the descriptions.

Mustanger
04/29/2005, 11:08 AM
... well, we'll see if the seller responds to an email I sent him. Still kinda curious as to the location change and price drop ...

Mustanger
05/02/2005, 07:08 AM
Haven't been contacted by the seller, either phone or email ... kinda makes you wonder if the ad is legit :-\

Mustanger
05/04/2005, 02:54 PM
The seller responded!! He says:
"HI, The car is still available for sale. I am a private seller and I moved recently in Spain, I've wanted to take this car with me and register it here and sell it for more money, prices for cars here are higher than those in US, unfortunatelly import taxes and european regulations made me change my mind since I have to pay a lot of money. Now I am shipping and sell it for a low price because next week I have a deadline term for
paying those taxes and I need to sell it until then otherwise I lose it!!!
This car is like new, STATE OF THE ART, completely working, no scratches, no dents, never been abused, always well taken care of, low miles, clear title, manuals, the original documentation included. You will receive it with the bill of sale and custom papers as well!
The car is located in Huelva, Spain where I am too and it will be shipped car will be dellivered at your home address. Let me know your decision.
Regards"

Don't really like buying a car without seeing it/touching it ... especially one that's supposed to be out of the country being sold by someone I don't know or have any references :(

joedls
05/04/2005, 03:54 PM
The seller responded!! He says:
"HI, The car is still available for sale. I am a private seller and I moved recently in Spain, I've wanted to take this car with me and register it here and sell it for more money, prices for cars here are higher than those in US, unfortunatelly import taxes and european regulations made me change my mind since I have to pay a lot of money. Now I am shipping and sell it for a low price because next week I have a deadline term for
paying those taxes and I need to sell it until then otherwise I lose it!!!
This car is like new, STATE OF THE ART, completely working, no scratches, no dents, never been abused, always well taken care of, low miles, clear title, manuals, the original documentation included. You will receive it with the bill of sale and custom papers as well!
The car is located in Huelva, Spain where I am too and it will be shipped car will be dellivered at your home address. Let me know your decision.
Regards"

Don't really like buying a car without seeing it/touching it ... especially one that's supposed to be out of the country being sold by someone I don't know or have any references :(



This is a SCAM! Run! Someone tried to pull this scam on me when I contacted them about a Shelby being sold on Ebay for a very low Buy It Now price. They used almost the exact same language in an e-mail sent to me in reply to my questions.

Mustanger
05/05/2005, 07:25 AM
The guy is persistent... he wrote:

Let me repicture the whole deal : I have already taken the car to the
shipping company. They've put it in a crate to prevent any shipping
damages(the car will also be insured for the whole shipping process). I
will have the car shipped to your delivery address for inspection. When
the ship leaves Spain, the shipping company will issue a tracking number
and some shipping documents. I will give you all these so you can track
the shipping and check that everything's OK . After you have checked
that the car has been shipped you'll have to complete a 30% from the
entire price as a deposit. The car will arrive at your home address and
you'll have 2 days for inspection after which you will have to decide
wether you'll take the car or not. If you do, you'll have to pay the
balance cash/cashiers cheque to the shipper. If for any reason the car
is found unsatisfactory, I'll refund you in full and supply a shipping
account that will be charged for returning the car or I'll try and sell
it in your area.
Let me know your decision ,
Regards

This response came after I emailed him that I had the policy to not buy a car if I can't see it in person.
I'll just have to reply to him one last time with a polite but firm,"no thank you." 8)

390cs68rcode
05/05/2005, 08:46 AM
tell him to send it COD and see what he says. Have some fun with him.

Perkchiro
05/05/2005, 09:01 AM
The seller responded!! He says:
"HI, The car is still available for sale. I am a private seller and I moved recently in Spain, I've wanted to take this car with me and register it here and sell it for more money, prices for cars here are higher than those in US, unfortunatelly import taxes and european regulations made me change my mind since I have to pay a lot of money. Now I am shipping and sell it for a low price because next week I have a deadline term for
paying those taxes and I need to sell it until then otherwise I lose it!!!
This car is like new, STATE OF THE ART, completely working, no scratches, no dents, never been abused, always well taken care of, low miles, clear title, manuals, the original documentation included. You will receive it with the bill of sale and custom papers as well!
The car is located in Huelva, Spain where I am too and it will be shipped car will be dellivered at your home address. Let me know your decision.
Regards"

Don't really like buying a car without seeing it/touching it ... especially one that's supposed to be out of the country being sold by someone I don't know or have any references :(


Don't deal with a guy like this. It's a total rip off. If he won't arrange for a private viewing by yourself or a representative of you, for instance a bank officer or mechanic you choose, and if he won't allow a COD upon receipt of the car, I'd run like heck!!! Had the same experience with a persistent seller in France.
Steve

luisa2552
05/05/2005, 09:32 AM
I just got a similar 'I'm in Europe' response from the guy that had the 67 Shelby posted a few days ago for $8,500. He wants me to send $3,000 then pay the rest on delivery. I told him send it COD and we'll talk.

Sara

case12
05/05/2005, 12:14 PM
This deal has all the elements of a scam.

However,

Call me crazy, but I bought my GT/CS without ever seeing or driving it. It was in CA and I am in IL. I talked to the owner a lot, and got a lot of pictures until I felt comfortable. Then I used an Internet Escrow account which works like this: I deposit all the money into the account (I picked the escrow company), the guy ships the car (this part I paid for), I look at the car and decide to ship it back or release the money in escrow. I never sent a dollar to the owner until I had the car in my garage, but he had a secure deposit in escrow if I did not ship it back. It works, and I was very comfortable that I would not get taken, because the money was in my control until I got the car and accepted it. The seller was happy too. Cool and safe way to buy large ticket items on the internet. Casey

nfrntau
05/05/2005, 02:17 PM
Just for giggles, tell the guy you are hiring an inspector that a colleague recommended. Ask him for the address of the vehicle to save you both the trouble and expence of shipping back and forth if you don't desire the car.

I'll bet he hedges big tme!

Mosesatm
05/05/2005, 05:59 PM
Here is another one. This time it's a Boss for $9,000.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6236&item=45482379 79&rd=1

Mustanger
05/06/2005, 06:51 AM
Here is another one. This time it's a Boss for $9,000.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6236&item=45482379 79&rd=1


Looks like the link listed shows that the car has been removed ... maybe someone's catching on ;)

hookedtrout
05/06/2005, 08:37 AM
This thing has been going on for a long time on eBay. It takes some time before they catch each individual scam, if you see one report it to eBay and it speeds up the process of removing it prior to someone getting taken.

Hook

Mosesatm
05/06/2005, 08:42 AM
Ebay had the last 2 I repored removed within hours. I was really impressed with their speed. The reporting method takes a little getting used to but once you know how to do it it's not too bad.

hcsstang
05/06/2005, 12:20 PM
I have been getting some emails about ebay and they are requisiting personal information. I don't think that they are from ebay. So I just delete them.

Mosesatm
05/06/2005, 12:45 PM
Ebay seems to know that people are sending those because they have an option on their home page to report such emails.

hookedtrout
05/06/2005, 02:13 PM
I have been getting some emails about ebay and they are requisiting personal information. I don't think that they are from ebay. So I just delete them.


You are absolutely right, never respond to an email that has a link inside the email asking you to go to a sight and modify information. They are trying to get you to give them your personal information such as credit card information. If you deal with ebay/paypal do this.

Add these two email addresses to your contact list and any time you get one of these PHISHING emails forward it to the correct spoof addresses and it lets them know how much of this goes on and they will give you a reply email that they are investigating it. I don't even add any comments I just hit forward, put in the right address dependent upon if it claims to be ebay or paypal and hit send. They respond within minutes as to having received your email and then they respond as to if it is a legit email or a phishing email. I've never got a legit one yet.

spoof@ebay.com
spoof@paypal.com

Hook

CobraMan
05/06/2005, 02:27 PM
I was on a cruise last year in France and popped into an internet Cafe. While enjoying my coffee I was surfing Ebay and noticed a Boss 429. The seller made it sound just as nice as the CS. Instead of being in Spain, he was 15 miles up the road from where my shipped was docked. He had no idea I was in his country. I explained that I was in his area and would like to see the car. After five days of attempting to email him for a response I never head back from the crook.

Stay away brothers, this doesn't sound good.

hookedtrout
05/06/2005, 02:33 PM
That's a good way to respond to these types of adds just to fish them out a bit. Tell them you just happen to be in the neighborhood and you'll be right over as this car is exactly what you are looking for and you'll pay cash when you get there. Sit back and see if they dissapear.

Hook