Brandon, (gang too!)

Here are the pics I promised. The 1st is a frontal shot of my 68, 289, coupe. You can faintly see the intake manifold casting number in front of the carb, behind the distributor. Next is a side view from the drivers side of the carb. You can see the intake casting in front of the carb and the firing order behind the carb. Finally, my last picture is where your engine stamp should be on a 289. Where the blue ends and the silver begins is the engine matching up to the transmission. You may notice the number on the right side of the picture, just before the blue touches the silver. This is the back of the intake manifold. The intake manifold sets between your valve covers. This shot is right behind the carb, from the front.

Now as has been discussed, maybe the 302 block is stamped in the same area. I’m not sure where the 6 cylinder is stamped, even Paul is not sure where the 390 stamping is, and I have only seen 1 428 CJ, and I didn’t see well enough to find the engine stamping. Hope this helps and hopefully this hasn’t been discussed to death. But as many of you know, mustangs were produced at a fast rate and most anything on the self could have found its way on them and not everything is the same on them. Especially the 68’s due to the strike at Ford!

Pic number 2, side view

Last one, hope it's better than 1st 2.....

If anybody is interested, I have pictures of my block with the heads removed and the partial VIN stamp clearly visible and now of the bare block that was hot tanked and cleaned up with the casting number and date stamp. I don't have a web site, so I can email the pictures or if someone could host them--?

Deadstang, you should be able to upload the images to the forums using the "Attach:" feature when you post or reply to a post.

I'm sorry...but I cant see them very well I'm really dumb :-\ would it be possible to circle them in paint or something? I'm truly sorry. :-[

Brandon,
The pics aren't that clear but I will see what I can do. Deadstang may have better shots.

Deadstang, if you can't post the pics, email them to me and I will post them for you. Check my name for the correct email address....

not like litteraly paint the block I meant MSpaint =P even though I may be the only one that thought about that

Not positive, but CalGTCSdreamer is this the location of the VIN?

If thats right where on earth are the numbers are they molded into it?

AH HAH! I found those suckers do I match it to my VIN#? cus the block said (im not sure if its 66 or 88)
8R168827 or 8R166627 I hope its not 666 =(
My VIN# is 8R01C168927 so if thats it what do I compare to?

Jon,
that is the correct location, and BrandonB, the engine number should match your VIN #, take a closer look at the engine stamp. If your VIN is 168927, the two block stamps you said 168827 or 166627 are not the same but the numbers are VERY DIFFICULT to read so look again. I think they are the same just because the last two digits are "27" and the ones that don't match could be misread, ie "8 for a 9".
Doug

ok one more look for luck!

Thanks Jon, that is a great job of showing the number, even tho the pic doesn't show it that well!

I'm sitting here a school right now just finished a final so once I get home I'll check my engine numbers again, thank you guys so much for helping me ;D

Brandon,

Doug is right on the mark. I really had to look HARD at mine (several times), but the last 6 numbers on my VIN match the 6 numbers on my block. 8's can easily be mistaken for 9's or 6's. If I were a betting man, I believe yours match! Another bonus find for you!

HEHE heres comes the moment of triumph I'm checking it now :P

Guess what guys... :(


Thats the real engine under her hood! WOHOO!! ;D :) ;)

Yeah I had you guys fooled at first =P

You didn't fool us, we are veterans! Congratulations on a numbers matching car! solid investment bro!

Thanks guys I'm definately leaving everything under the hood alone now, unless its to clean her up =)

BrandonB,
Congrates on your car and the matching numbers, I knew it all the time. I wish you luck with your car and the plans you have for it.
Doug

??? OKAY GUYS, SOLVE THIS CAPER .... 68 GT/CS .... 289 engine. VIN 8RO1C149519.

HERE ARE THE PICS OF WHAT IS ON MY ENGINE BLOCK WHEN WE REDID IT ABOUT A YEAR AND HALF AGO.

YOU SHOULD KNOW A WE HAVE THIS ABSOLUTELY WACKY STRANGE HEAT SHROUD TUBE THAT FITS OVER THE HEADERS BUT ITS NOT THE NORMAL ONE ON A 289 ENGINE. I HAVE ASKED A FEW PLACES ABOUT THE PART AND NO ONE HAS ANY IDEA WHAT IT IS. ONE GUY AT CARLISLE LAST YEAR SAID IT WAS A SPECIFIC PART MADE FOR ENGINES SOLD OUT OF LA. EMISSIONS STUFF. WHO KNOWS.

THEY DO NOT MATCH TO ME AT ALL.

This is Rachael again - here are the pics

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Rachael,
I remember you asking me about your heat shroud over 3 years ago....I see still no answer. As for your number on your pictures, they are not the block stamping we are discussing, the first is the block part #, the second is the firing order on the intake manifold, not sure about the third. Look at the picture that Jon (admin) posted with the circle around the number, that is where the VIN # should be. As for the heat shroud, the only thing I can say is it looks like an older 70/71 mustang heat shroud. Please post the picture of the shroud so everyone can see it and maybe someone can answer it.
Doug

Racheal,

Is that last picture taken between the windshield and dash? It looks like one of the 3 places your VIN is located. Can you post a picture of the Heat Shield and is it still on the engine? I may know what it is if I can see a picture......

All pictures are of all markings on the engine (engine block). Those are the only numbers we could see on the engine block when we redid the engine and engine compartment. The last picture is a brass type plate that appears to be riveted to the block.

YES I AM STILL SEARCHING FOR AN ANSWER ABOUT THE HEAT SHROUD TUBE./Heat sheild/whatever it is. It is not on the engine because as you can tell from the pic its not in that great of shape.

Glazier's is not far from us and in June when the weather was nice I had planned to drive down and let them take a look.

1st PIC - is of the engine compartment before the update. Off the air filter there is an odd cup shaped ring. Its copper tubing that has been cut off. The tubing appeared to stretch from air filter to the round tube part on the right side of the heat shroud tube.

2nd PIC - is of a regular 289 with the heat shroud tube. We have bought and tried this heat shroud tube. There is no way it fits on my engine. Our air filter is the same as on a regular 289 though.

3rd PIC - is of a 390 engine. I imagine the part that fits our car is similair to this BUT I do not have a 390 engine in the vehicle. Any replacement part I buy at autozone fits on our car almost all the time.

pic 2

pic 3

Obviously I can't post today with out screwing up. THIS IS THE ACTUALLY PART. I must have been having a blonde moment....

Rachael,

Based on the engine pics you posted (great job even if you are blonde) the tube or cup you refer to on your breather is connected to the heat shield you show. I will try to explain.
If you notice the "door" inside your breather has springs. It is opened and closed by the heat that runs off your engine and up through the heat shield, into the tube (that connects to your "cup") opening or closing the door in your breather. It all works with the choke and carb too (although I can't explain how!) I believe the heat shield also trys to keep your starter from getting too hot and not being able to turn your engine. Most mustangs have taken all that off and run a different breather, unless they are in competition or shows. Finally, Your part you posted last (during your blonde moment) looks modified to me, because it looks incomplete, unless it is like Doug says and is from a later mustang. In that case, it probably is modified. It has nothing to do with california emissions, that is a whole other topic and california did have extra emission equipment on their engines. Anyway, I hope this helps and it is not a critical piece for your car to run.

C6********, Doesn't that mean 1966? I was working on my engine the other day and while changing the oil pan I notice a similar engine block number. I thought that I was decieved and it was not the original block. SO if the number starts with a C6**** is that okay

I am really obsessed with finding out why this is so messed up. In doing a bit of research the answer maybe that one of the headers is not for a 289. We looked on the web and through some catalogs and could not find an answer.

This picture is of the headers for the car. The one on the right is the one that the heat shield goes over.

Anyone know what type of header that is???


Thanks for everyone's help.

Stangchick,
Those are exhaust manifolds and not headers. I believe they are called "log style" manifolds and are common to Fords. But the one on the right, does it have tubes or tunnels running through it? It doesn't look thick enough to.
Also, the picture you posted of the 289 engine. The top arrow you have drawn points to something that does work with your emissions called a Thermactor unit I believe. it works with a smog pump and also with the exhaust manifolds. I took mine off. I will try and do a little research for you. Does it have any casting numbers?

The bottom manifold is an "early style" exhaust manifold that fits a 289 or a 302 ci engine. The upper manifold is a later replacement that has strengthening ribs to reduce or stop the manifold from warping from heat. The exhaust manifold has nothing to do with the 1968 emissions issues, which were called IMCO (automatic trans) and Thermactor (manual trans). Look for a right manifold that matches your left one and the heat shroud will fit perfectly. Also, you will need two special manifold studs to mount the shroud. Hope this helps.

Russ