View Full Version : What Is The Correct Wheel? Covers - Styled Steel?
@Holmes 10/19/2007, 08:59 AM For a non-GT GT/CS (?) what is the correct wheel? I don't think those mag stars are correct.
The Marti Report does not specify any wheel option such as Delux Wheel Covers or Styled Steel Wheels so is the standard wheel cover correct?
PFSlim 10/19/2007, 09:46 AM Good question. My Marti Report does say Argent Styled Steel Wheels for my car. I would assume that if it does not say, then it would be regular wheels with hubcaps????
Paul
PFSlim 10/19/2007, 09:50 AM Mine are a little bit darker than they should be, but we liked the color contrast.
Paul
@Holmes 10/19/2007, 01:35 PM Paul
In this 1968 GT/CS commercial (which depicts gt/cs drivers as dorks - get out of the car man and get the phone number! Whats with that deer in the headlight look!) Anyway this car is caped by the regular hub caps - which I think are correct for my car. Check it out
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Es5bJwW7O1Y
PFSlim 10/19/2007, 02:20 PM I know the hub caps you are talking about. There are several members on the site that have them. Hopefully, someone with them will respond as to where/what to get.
Paul
franklinair 10/19/2007, 03:04 PM My Marti Report states the car was ordered with "Deluxe Wheel Covers". I have a new set if you like. I opted to use Argent Styled Steel wheels when I bought the car.
Neil Hoppe
@Holmes 10/19/2007, 03:26 PM Well I guess it has to be the standard. Frank if your Marti says Delux then I'm sol. Plain jane covers for me. However, let me know in the furture before you sell cause I might change direction before its over. In the past I have had styled steel and hubs and as weird as this might seem I perfer the Delux.
C160223 10/19/2007, 05:47 PM My marti report states "wheel covers" as an option. Doesn't specify deluxe or standard, but I'm guessing standard hubcaps like you posted.
Not sure if the wheel covers you posted were standard on all 68's or if the 10¼" dog dish were standard? I'll have to check through my Ford literature and find out...
@Holmes 10/20/2007, 12:14 AM Dog Dish??? Oh man don't even suggest that. I would be very suprised if the basic wheel cover for a GT/Cs to be a dog dish. Man I hope my purchaser upgraded at the dealership - pleazzz no
GTCSMustang 10/20/2007, 09:26 AM Do you have any of the original steel wheels that came on the car? What color are they?
@Holmes 10/20/2007, 12:54 PM No when I first saw the car it had Mag Stars on it
DLedin 10/20/2007, 04:23 PM While my CS qualifies as a GT (302-4V) it appears to have come with the wheel covers as shown in the first post (and the commercial). My Deluxe Marti report doesn't indicate what it came with. I've always assumed, since there were no other GT-related items on the car when I bought it, that the wheel covers were original.
-DLedin
rvrtrash 10/20/2007, 05:00 PM No when I first saw the car it had Mag Stars on it
No offense, but from the picture they look more like Magnum 500's than Mag-Stars.
Steve
franklinair 10/20/2007, 08:00 PM My J code 302-4V doesn't qualify as a GT. If it was a GT, the Marti Report would have listed the GT option (primarily a HD suspension package). It doesn't. However, it had the Deluxe wheel covers listed (as shown in the first thread by @HOLMES). I removed the original 14" wheels & caps and installed the Argent S/S wheels & caps which I prefer. I still have the original 4 wheels if anyone needs them.
Neil Hoppe
@Holmes 10/20/2007, 10:21 PM Well I am going to need some soon so send me a pm on the price. Thanks. Thanks for the correction. I'm not to familure with 69+ cars. Those magnums will see e-bay soon.
Of course my concern is the lack of any mention of wheel covers in the Marti report. Does anyone have a list of the standard options that came with the GTCS package? And worse would be that the option does not specify the type of wheel. Hopefuly someone can clear this up soon.
Thanks guys, as always
case12 10/21/2007, 06:12 PM The GT/CS had no special wheel covers. They were the same as any 68 Mustang. If your marti does not list a wheel cover on the options list (such as deluxe, rallye, etc). Then it came with the standard wheel every 68 mustang came with. Hope this helps. Casey
@Holmes 10/21/2007, 08:35 PM Franklin I noticed that your car was produced with 6.95 X 14-4 Ply WSW as was mine. Would this indicate they were dog dish?
BroadwayBlue 10/22/2007, 07:39 AM On the Marti Report
My 289 states "Deluxe Wheel Covers"
The 302 states "Wheel Covers"
I assumed the 302 were the dog dish and the Deluxe on the 289 are those in the picture at the top of the thread.
So some Marti Reports state nothing in regard to wheel covers? I would assume dog dish in that case. Just my opinion though.
I just looked quickly at the Marti Thread and the first 2 I looked at (RVTRASH and DLEDIN) have no wheel type specified on their report. Interesting.
Mosesatm 10/22/2007, 10:22 AM Here is a copy of the GT/CS sales brochure showing styled steel wheels, wire covers, and deluxe covers.
Perkchiro 10/22/2007, 11:54 AM Neat piece. Note also the absence of the California Special emblems on the rear quarters. Must be an early advertising brochure. Your comments Paul?
case12 10/22/2007, 03:43 PM I believe it is in Paul's book - the advertising was done before the scripts could be finished. The scripts were last minute add-on at the un-veiling. He shows the invoices for the scripts and the timing was close to the un-veiling at the dealers meeting. If you look close at the pictures of the dealers meeting in his book you can see the big advertising banner (same picture as this brochure) at the dealers meeting, and the real cars being shown on the floor have the scripts! (I end up explaining that at shows a lot). Casey
franklinair 10/22/2007, 04:32 PM My Marti sez Deluxe Wheel Covers. When I bought the car, it had the standard steel (black 14") wheels with what I thought were Deluxe Wheel Covers. I already had a set of Argent S/S from a prior car, and I opted to use them on my C/S because I prefer them, and they are correct for the car/year. gtcs1 PM'd me and told me the ones I have are Standard caps, not the Deluxe as my Marti states. If anyone needs or wants a set of 4 standard 14' wheels & caps, let me know. The biggest bugaboo is shipping costs - they are bulky & heavy. New Michelin tires are already mounted, but I have no need or use for them. The tires & wheels are in need of a good home!!
Neil Hoppe
(franklinair)
Duker 10/24/2007, 06:28 PM If the Marti Report states as mine does "Chrome Styled Steel Wheels" does this mean the rims were originally "shiny chrome" with the outer ring and the center cap?
franklinair 10/24/2007, 07:49 PM Yep.
Neil
BroadwayBlue 10/24/2007, 08:50 PM Did the original chrome wheels have the outer ring?
My current versions do not have the outer ring.
franklinair 10/24/2007, 09:18 PM Yep.
Neil
@Holmes 10/25/2007, 02:04 AM Called up Monte Ford in California. After being passed around I spoke to a guy in the service deptment that had been there for thirty + years. He told me that the dealer would intentionaly order the Mustangs with the Dog Dish rims because the buyers would always upgrade to cragers ect. I asked him if they would have sold this car wiht the magnums. He said that it was not likely but when I told him the car was delivered in on 2/22 and not sold until 10/23 he said that it was possible. Customers were always changing the rims, covers ect at the time of purchase. Does this sound thike BS or what. Current owner said car had rims on it when he got it. Guess the only way to know is to hunt down orig owner. LOL. Anyway, its clear that the car had Dogs on it when produced.
BroadwayBlue 10/25/2007, 02:34 PM I'm sure it's possible and I'm sure their profit on the aftermarket wheels was better than factory.
It was probably a common practice. I'll give you an example that I had ...
I bought a Jeep Wrangler in 1992 I told the salesman I wanted that green one over there but I wanted the wheels off of another parked on the lot.
He said no problem and swapped the wheels on the 2 cars on the lot.
My sticker didn't say I had the alloy wheels but it was sold to me with alloy wheels from the factory. Not sure what they did when they sold the other car.
calspecialchic 11/04/2007, 06:24 PM This is a good question as I have been wondering the same thing. My marti report just says "wheel covers" as an option. but when I bought the car it had the chrome styled steel wheels with the GT hubcaps. My car is not a GT.
I am restoring mine right now and am looking at getting new wheels. Mine are not looking too good anymore. My brother painted them black a long time ago and they are not fixable from what I understand.
So, I was looking at putting them back as I bought the car with new chrome wheels and GT hubcaps. I do not want the wheel covers.
Can someone answer since my car is not a GT and it is not listed as an option, should I put on plain hubcaps? Or could this have been a dealer added option?
Thanks,
franklinair 11/04/2007, 07:00 PM I had the same question in mind. When I installed my argent S/S wheels. I bought a new set of non-GT center hubcaps & trim rings (from Virginia Mustang) as my car did not list the GT package either. I believe this to be the correct configuration. As a point of interest: my recollection of ORIGINAL trim rings is they were a somewhat burnished finish while the new ones now are polished and bright. Also, the chrome S/S wheels on the market today offer chrome finish on the outer rim, eliminating the need for the trim rings. I personally think they look better, but they are not truly correct.
Neil
BroadwayBlue 11/04/2007, 07:20 PM The GT wheel covers came from the factory on GT cars only.
The non-GT (blank) wheel covers were for all non-GT cars with the Styled Wheels.
Many of us have the GT wheel covers on our non-GT cars but we like the look and use those instead of the plain.
If you're going Concours, then you would use the plain on a non-GT car. Otherwise go with what you like.
Both of my CS's came with the GT caps from the previous owner and I left them on.
rvrtrash 11/04/2007, 07:54 PM I am restoring mine right now and am looking at getting new wheels. Mine are not looking too good anymore. My brother painted them black a long time ago and they are not fixable from what I understand.
They might be if you were willing to invest some elbow grease in them. It's hard to say without seeing them. I'm missing 1 chrome wheel but you wouldn't notice without really looking. You might be able to save yours by rubbing the paint your brother put on with laquer thinner. What I did to mine was use an extra standard GT wheel, bead blast it, and paint the outside edge (also the backside and inside where the tire mounts. I'm a perfectionist. I even painted my seat springs) black. I then painted the perforated part with a chrome colored paint. The cap and beauty ring cover most the wheel so most people don't notice the wheel isn't really chrome. Just something to think about.
Steve
calspecialchic 11/05/2007, 11:47 AM Thanks Steve. That is along the lines the guy doing the restoration talked about as an option. He said I could have them blasted and then painted with the argent color. I wanted to stay original so I was looking at keeping them chrome. My husband experimented on my spare tire with some chrome paint and it did not turn out good. But there was not much prep done before hand. He pretty much just sanded it and painted over it. It would not pass for chrome at all right now. Thanks for the tip cause it may be worth trying. All four new wheels are quite pricy.
Thanks Rich for answering the hubcap question. I will keep with the GT caps. I am getting new ones though cause mine are pretty banged up.
I like them and it is not a numbers matching concourse car, although, it should look pretty nice when its done. Fresh everything minus the bird droppings and dirt when you saw it.
This website has been so helpful. Thanks everyone.
BroadwayBlue 11/05/2007, 01:37 PM ...Thanks Rich for answering the hubcap question. I will keep with the GT caps. I am getting new ones though cause mine are pretty banged up.
I like them and it is not a numbers matching concourse car, although, it should look pretty nice when its done. Fresh everything minus the bird droppings and dirt when you saw it...
No problem.
Yours was only the 2nd CS I ever saw in person that I didn't own and the first one since I've been a CS ownership. I still think the fact that your CS and mine were on the same truck is pretty wild.
It looked good bird droppings and all ... it was a CS how could it not look good? :wink:
Good Luck!
rvrtrash 11/05/2007, 07:27 PM My husband experimented on my spare tire with some chrome paint and it did not turn out good. But there was not much prep done before hand. He pretty much just sanded it and painted over it. It would not pass for chrome at all right now. Thanks for the tip cause it may be worth trying.
I forgot to mention that I primed the metal before I sprayed on the chrome. My bad. That might make all the difference.
Steve
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