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Old 08/18/2019, 09:37 PM   #1
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GT/CS Convertible???

Does this make sense to any of you? I'm not buying it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Ford-M...9dWILC&vxp=mtr

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I am not the original owner of the car. I was told by my local Ford dealer that when these cars were being built in California that people special ordered convertible cars for the use of carrying surf boards. That most all the cars were already labeled as coupes and were pulled off the assembly line to be made into convertibles. I do not have a Marti Report. The VIN came off the dash and there is also one on the door that matches. I have updated the listing to reflect your questions for other potential buyers. Thank You for your interest. It truly is a beautiful car.
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Old 08/19/2019, 05:18 AM   #2
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A Marti report would clear that up real fast. Ford would never assigned a coupe VIN to a convertible body. It is clearly a made up car. Call it what it is and sell it as a very cool modified car. Just my opinion.

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Old 08/19/2019, 08:19 AM   #3
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Not buying it. At some time in that convertibles past, someone likely grafted on a front clip from a Coupe.

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Old 08/19/2019, 08:20 AM   #4
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Ford did make convertibles out of coupes in the fox body era. I don't believe it was done in 1968 though.

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Old 08/19/2019, 08:24 AM   #5
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It would be very interesting to see it on a lift. To see what was underneath as far as factory bracing. A convertible is WAW different than a coupe. I would submit that Ford would never convert a coupe to a convertible after the car was finished. It would be a huge undertaking to do it to ford factory specs.

My guess is the underside has aftermarket bracing to stiffen it up for the top to be cut off.

But as Marty said what a way cool modified! Looks great and IMO well worth the current bid if it was done right and not rusty as the owner states.

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Old 08/19/2019, 09:18 AM   #6
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Also, the consecutive unit number of 108513 and recessed reflectors makes this a December 1967 or earlier car. IMO this makes the car fully assembled as a coupe on the line. Unlike a California Special where the conversion was easy form stock coupe to a GT/CS, I find it hard to believe that Ford would have tried to convert a coupe to a convertible. It would be a huge undertaking when many Mustangs were languishing on the Ford Dealer lots. The whole reason behind the GT/CS was to "jump start " sales for all Mustangs.

Would love to see under this car! Scott's thought of a coupe front clip makes sense and then the underside could appear factory Ford.

Still a cool car and a great look!

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Old 08/19/2019, 10:07 AM   #7
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Chances are its a converted coupe. I once did this type of conversion back in the 1990's. The '68's are the prime candidate for this mod due to the '68's came with the torque boxes on BOTH sides, but still require installing inner rocker panels. There are additional differences between a coupe & convertible. Ask me how I know.
As far as who did the actual conversion, I seriously doubt if it was done by Ford OR a dealership. The VIN says it is a coupe. Modified, but never the less, a coupe.

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Old 08/19/2019, 11:17 AM   #8
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A Marti report would clear that up real fast. Ford would never assigned a coupe VIN to a convertible body. It is clearly a made up car. Call it what it is and sell it as a very cool modified car. Just my opinion.
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Old 08/19/2019, 05:28 PM   #9
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Old 08/19/2019, 05:32 PM   #10
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The wide rocker rails look like they are correct for a convertible, that is why I am guessing that it has had a front clip change.

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Old 08/19/2019, 05:47 PM   #11
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Other than the passenger side scripts someone did a good job with the GT/CS details.
I asked the seller to post photos of the hood holes, tail light covers, and fuse box.

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The wide rocker rails look like they are correct for a convertible, that is why I am guessing that it has had a front clip change.
Scott, Good Catch!

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The inner rocker panels can be added when converting a coupe to a convertible.
If it was a front clip replacement the VIN tag & door tag would both have to be transposed as well, since the numbers match.
The Marti Report will indicate a coupe based on the VIN.
There are other visual clues to look for:
The rear cross member in the trunk is different on a convertible.
The top of the inner fender wells is flattened to allow clearance when the top is down.
There's more, but I can't divulge ALL my secrets of Mustang forgeries.

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Old 08/21/2019, 03:48 PM   #14
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Old 08/22/2019, 08:20 PM   #15
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Here's the Marti Report.
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