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Old 10/13/2018, 12:35 PM   #61
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If the fan is making noises and grinding it will draw a lot more power than it would normally, heating up its feed wire.

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Old 10/13/2018, 12:38 PM   #62
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Old 10/13/2018, 11:45 PM   #63
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If the fan is making noises and grinding it will draw a lot more power than it would normally, heating up its feed wire.
ok. Thank you Arlie and Neil. I should tear into that blower motor.



Also, I don't like how the electric choke is hooked up, spliced into blk/red stripe wire (140, I think)
where would the correct connection be for the edelbrock electric choke


the car has an occasional miss, it seems like an electrical miss, to me
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Old 10/14/2018, 09:08 AM   #64
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That wire is the keyed power source to the back up lights. You need to make sure they got the wire that is hot and not the return wire from the neutral lockout/backup switch on the tranny, when the key is in the run position. Simple check to see if the wire is hot when you turn the ignition switch to the run position and check for power on and off when turning the key.

I use that wire almost exclusively for an electric choke. If you wish you can go all the way to the ignition switch and stack another wire on its hot lug. I have never had a problem using that wire. Not fond of the "u-haul trailer" connector they used. I solder a connection it for best contact.

Fords of the 60's era did not use electric chokes and there are few good points to get a key on, power, source. By the way, this wire is also hot in the accessory position. So if you use the accessory to listen to the radio, you will start the choke sequence. Not many people do that in these old cars.

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Old 10/14/2018, 11:40 AM   #65
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ok. Thank you Arlie and Neil. I should tear into that blower motor.



Also, I don't like how the electric choke is hooked up, spliced into blk/red stripe wire (140, I think)
where would the correct connection be for the edelbrock electric choke


the car has an occasional miss, it seems like an electrical miss, to me
From past posts, it seems that you bought (and installed?) the Pertronix relay to power the Pertronix coil and ignitor. If so, you can use the same wire that runs from the relay to the coil to hook to the electric choke (that's what I do). This wire will only be "hot" during "run" and not during "accessory". That way you do not get a current draw from the choke when just sitting in the car listening to the radio with the key in the "accessory" position (per what Rob noted about wire #140)

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Old 10/15/2018, 12:17 PM   #66
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That wire is the keyed power source to the back up lights. You need to make sure they got the wire that is hot and not the return wire from the neutral lockout/backup switch on the tranny, when the key is in the run position. Simple check to see if the wire is hot when you turn the ignition switch to the run position and check for power on and off when turning the key.

I use that wire almost exclusively for an electric choke. If you wish you can go all the way to the ignition switch and stack another wire on its hot lug. I have never had a problem using that wire. Not fond of the "u-haul trailer" connector they used. I solder a connection it for best contact.

Fords of the 60's era did not use electric chokes and there are few good points to get a key on, power, source. By the way, this wire is also hot in the accessory position. So if you use the accessory to listen to the radio, you will start the choke sequence. Not many people do that in these old cars.

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Rob, thank you. I will check it and if its correct, and if it is, keep it for now.
James, thank you for the option!
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Old 10/18/2018, 04:10 PM   #67
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my blower motor doesn't have the hose, its missing

any advice on getting the fan out? do I have to take my console out?
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Old 10/19/2018, 01:27 PM   #68
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If I remember correctly you can't get to all the blower screws without loosening or removing the housing, and to get there you'll need to remove the console

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If I remember correctly you can't get to all the blower screws without loosening or removing the housing, and to get there you'll need to remove the console
Thank you Arlie
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the car has an occasional miss, it seems like an electrical miss, to me
Question, this is for your C code 289 GT/CS? Check your firing order if your engine has ever been rebuilt with new cam.

Most all new small block Ford cams use the 351W firing order. Do not use the firing order imprinted on your stock cast iron intake manifold.

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I am a bit confused. All 289's used the 15426378 firing order stamped on the intake. So did 302's until the advent of the 302 roller cam shaft motor in the mid 80's. Then the 302 switched to the 351 Windsor firing order.

This is to the best of my knowledge. One does need to be careful when selecting a cam these days as some of the small block ford cams do use a Windsor order.

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Scott,
I am a bit confused. All 289's used the 15426378 firing order stamped on the intake. So did 302's until the advent of the 302 roller cam shaft motor in the mid 80's. Then the 302 switched to the 351 Windsor firing order.

This is to the best of my knowledge. One does need to be careful when selecting a cam these days as some of the small block ford cams do use a Windsor order.

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My mistake, was editing too many times.

Most of the Ford small block cams that are sold new, use the more modern 351W firing order.

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Old 10/22/2018, 04:02 PM   #73
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My mistake, was editing too many times.

Most of the Ford small block cams that are sold new, use the more modern 351W firing order.
Correct, it's a better firing order for smoothness and cross-firing. But putting one in an old Windsor can really ruin an old fart's day trying to get the thing to run properly using the old firing order.

Then there are the engine builders who like to use an old 302 grind cam in 351s for some obscure reason. That is also frustrating if you're not aware of it.

Ask Bill and I how we know!!! We spent hours trying to figure it out until we finally called the builder and asked him. Yep, he used a 302 cam in a 351!!!

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