View Full Version : Your GT/CS "Plans"??


PNewitt
04/16/2005, 08:30 PM
I was wondering....

What are all of you going to do with your GT/CS? Which one of these is your "dream", or eventual plan?

1. Totally restore to prime show condition.

2. Partially restore--a driver--with everyday upgrades.

3. Customize, "Restomod", radical engine, wheels, etc.

4. Shelby (period) Vintage accessories (wheels, Paxton, valve covers, etc.). As if it was upgraded in 1968.

thanks--

Paul N.

68sunlitgold
04/16/2005, 08:51 PM
Paul,
I am hoping to start this fall on my CS, after being away from it for the past 3 years. I will do a partial restoration to make it a driver and like you stated, some upgrades like Power Brakes, etc.

Who knows maybe I will get it done before the "get Route 66 together" that has been discussed. It always seems there are other things to do or get done and I do not know how much time my new job will take. I am guessing I will have to pay someone to do alot of it, which is not my plan.

Doug

68gt390
04/16/2005, 09:10 PM
Paul;
My GT/CS is as pumped up as she is going to get. With the custom cam and heads ported and polished, ceramic headers, new traction lock, the only thing I need now is my seats back from the upholstry shop. Their dragging their feet. Show's have started and my GT took a dump on me last night on the way home from a show. Will start tearing into it in the morning to see what's up with that. Bottom line, my GT/CS is a driver, I enjoy it way too much to make her a trailer queen. Am looking forward to a get together. If help is needed to do that let me know. Don't know what I can do from the Ohio area but, I'm willing to help. Would be interesting to know how many folks are planning on attending the Grand Nationals in Youngstown in September? My house is open to those who wish to attend. Don't have a lot of room but, I do have some friends in the local area who can help. Am 2 hours from Youngstown.

Don ;D

dbeal
04/16/2005, 09:25 PM
Paul, My plans are # 2...BTW how's the new book coming.. I can hardly wait until its ready!

390cs68rcode
04/16/2005, 10:11 PM
option #1. just about there already. I do drive the car a few days a week as well. I am early into showing the car but so far I am 3 for 3 on getting awards with her.

nfrntau
04/16/2005, 11:17 PM
Mine will be option number 3, with the ability to switch back to number 1 if the next owner wishes to do so.

hookedtrout
04/17/2005, 07:49 AM
#2 for me. I want her to look original and fresh but be a driver. Someday when I'm retired and have lots of time I may go more for the total ground up restoration. I do have a trailer to haul her if I need but short of long trips she'll have her rubber on the road.

Hook

rvrtrash
04/17/2005, 09:20 AM
Well I'm no help. I did a ground up restoration (#1) but did some mods to the engine (#3) and plan on driving it and enjoying it (#2), and if I hadn't "goofed" and went back to the 10:1 compression, I would have probably put a Paxton on it (#4). I like the history aspect of an original restoration but to me cars are meant to be driven, even if just on nice days. The only reason I bought a trailer was for hauling projects home with.
Steve

PNewitt
04/17/2005, 11:37 AM
What I'm trying to get at is where folks are about the "guilt factor" of not having a total restoration. I mean that half-sarcastically, because there is an unspoken expectation that every Mustang be totally restored. It's not that anything is wrong with that, but I've always had a respect for the average person that likes to drive and enjoy their CS. I certainly appreciate the time and effort for restrorations and (the hassle of) car shows, but I wouldn't hold the room full of trophies over the heads of that person who is driving their car, and getting attention, and having fun doing it.

I think that at this point in time--these cars are now 37 years old, and you can do with it as you wish.

My two bits,

Paul N.

Andrew
04/17/2005, 02:19 PM
I have felt at times that I would not be doing the car justice if I did not try to bring it back to respectable shape. This meant quality paint(not show) job that I would not break into a sweat if a nick or scratch appeared, good mechanical shape with tranny and motor rebuild an an original 37 year old interior(except for the front seats and headliner-prior owner must have had a pet tiger). For the first time in 7 months, it is 70 degrees and the last remnants of snow gone two weeks ago. The car has not seen the road in 6 months, but like every spring for the last 18 years, it was time to put Red Barchetta in the casettte player and hit the road early in the am. Later in the day, put the kids in the car for ice cream and make it home in time to hear 'Play Ball!" at Fenway on tv. This is what it is all about for me, keeping the car in good shape but not afraid to use it.

PNewitt
04/17/2005, 02:25 PM
You put it so well, Andrew. This is what the experience is all about.

When I lived in San Diego in the 80's, I'd drive into this tunnel north of El Cajon, and slam it into second, and hear the engine (through dual 30" glasspacks) rev up to 4 grand--and reverberate through the tunnel.

Nothing like it!

Paul N.

Andrew
04/17/2005, 03:03 PM
What good fun these cars have brought to us. It is the closest thing I have to feel like being 19 all over again, back then though, more time than I knew what t do with and not a dime in my pocket for the car. Now, yes, more expendable income, but time has become far more precious. Trying to find a few spare minutes to hit the road to relive the excitement can be a challenge. I think back to some many times over the years I almost let it go, only to think now what a foolish mistake that would have been. Coming back to this site helps me remember the excitement I had the day I got that car in May 1987. Thanks to Eugenio in LA for selling it!

hookedtrout
04/17/2005, 03:42 PM
I've always had a respect for the average person that likes to drive and enjoy their CS. I certainly appreciate the time and effort for restrorations and (the hassle of) car shows, but I wouldn't hold the room full of trophies over the heads of that person who is driving their car


Speaking for myself I'll be the first to congratulate a trophy winner. It takes a lot of patience to live with a beauty queen but there's a lot of reward in doing so when you peer under the covers. :o And if it makes a show winner feel better to rub in someones face they can use mine anytime because I'm tough as leather and it won't bother me any. But I'm yet to find anyone that takes pride to the point of rubbing it.

Most trophy winners I've met get excited to win and they like to share their rewards but they don't rub and I think at times us daily driver trailer trash types have a little envy when we peer under the hood and not see a drop of oil or dirt on anything but.... when the engine roars and I'm leaving a patch as I exit the car show I'd be willing to bet the the trailer queen has a little bit of envy as well when all the heads turn from his spotless beauty to see the smoke from the rubber and roar of the engine and the grabbing of gears.

The tough part is accepting that there is more than one way, so I would offer to each and everyone out there. Before you go suggesting what someone should do with their car ask them what their future plans are for the car, just like Paul has done here and if they respond they want it to be a show winner and you have a show winner give them some good advice. If they offer they want a nice daily driver respect that as well because it certainly is a viable choice that offers a whole bunch of fun in the sun and equally as much enjoyment albeit a bit different.

In a nut shell it's two different worlds and both have their positives and their negatives I've just chosen to put the rubber to the pavement and get my enjoyment out of that as for trophy's I've got shelves full of them from my kid winning baseball tournaments so I got all the trophy's I need.

Hook

joedls
04/17/2005, 09:22 PM
OK, this is my first post. I bought my GT/CS a couple of months ago and am new to this whole collector car thing. But I now have the Mustang bug. I first bought a '65 convertible Mustang in September that was a great daily driver. I decided to have it painted last November and one thing led to another.... There is very little left that is original. It has a couple of months before it's done with all the body, paint, new engine, tranny, rear end, brakes, etc...

I originally bought the GT/CS , with my father-in-law, to drive until the 65 was done. Then we thought we'd sell it and try to make a few bucks. Or he'd take it up to Washington State. I now have learned to love the GT/CS and am contemplating a Holley 174 blower. I originally bought the blower for the 65, but went a different direction. So, I keep thinking that blower would give the GT/CS just the right amount of power to make it interesting. Because, frankly, I wanna drive it. I could care less about car show trophies. I have never entered one and have only been to a few as a spectator. Like I said, I'm new to all of this.

The Holley 174 is supposed to fit under the stock hood. Anyone have any experience with this?

jk89cat
04/17/2005, 10:39 PM
my 67 clone is going to undergo a 302 ho efi conversion . restomod . but i want to keep the overall gt/cs look to the car. since i decoded the vin last week, its nothing special just a 289, c4 , p/s base coupe . but the shell is in quite good shape and want to make it into something , hence my plan for it . justin

68MustangHCS
04/18/2005, 12:13 AM
I like my car the way it is, I just want to detail the motor, cleanup the undercarriage, tinker with it now and then, recover the driver's seat, drive it on weekends, play my 8 track tapes, go to car club meetings and shows, add some vintage ford over the counter accessories to it, kick the tires every now and then, and enjoy driving it.

PFSlim
04/18/2005, 08:06 AM
We have two formal shows to do this year still. One is May 1 in Liberty, MO (an MCA sponsored/judged event). Then in Sept, we plan on taking it to Northest MO for a show at our hometown. It will be a participant judged event. As well, we have been asked to bring the GT/CS and the AC Cobra to the local Ford Dealership in July for an open house event.

Work wise, we need to rebuild our power steering pump. Also, our speedo is not working properly so we will end up removing our old one and installing a reconditioned one.

Other than that, drive it!!!!

Paul

PNewitt
04/18/2005, 08:01 PM
my 67 clone is going to undergo a 302 ho efi conversion . restomod . but i want to keep the overall gt/cs look to the car. since i decoded the vin last week, its nothing special just a 289, c4 , p/s base coupe . but the shell is in quite good shape and want to make it into something , hence my plan for it . justin


You could always build a "Little Red". Somewhere around here is a URL for that car...

Paul N.

jk89cat
04/18/2005, 09:05 PM
the only problem with cloning a little red, is well the color, i dont like red . . oh what would you guys think of running the hella f550's 3x6 square fog lamps ? i think thats the correct model number . i am also planning on the composite headlamps too . with silverstar bulbs of course . justin

jk89cat
04/18/2005, 09:25 PM
i forgot to add.... what would you guys think of using a 68 shelby floor console instead of the stock style gt console? justin

rvrtrash
04/18/2005, 11:05 PM
Like many of us have said before, it's your car, do what you want and enjoy it, just don't do anything permanent and save the original stuff in case you change your mind later. As for the color red, I agree. I don't care for red either, due to an unfortunate 2 year association with a TR-6. However, it is and was a popular color. 4 of mine either have red inside or outside and I have to just deal with it, mainly by enjoying the "thumbs up" while I drive. "Arrest Me Red" is an attention getter.
Steve

jk89cat
04/19/2005, 06:27 AM
blue is my favorite and once i getthings completed i'll have 3 blue cars and one white . i am unsure of what blue the mustang will be but my galaxie is going to be 2004 sonic blue. my cougar is that 1995 code km moonlight blue . and my f150 is white . i am thinking for the mustang either sonic blue with pearl white stripes with using torque thrust d's with the centers painted the same pearl as the stripes . justin

Canuck CSter
04/19/2005, 08:01 PM
Link to pic of Little Red






quote author=PNewitt link=board=1;threadid=1588;start=15#msg9655 date=1113876070]

my 67 clone is going to undergo a 302 ho efi conversion . restomod . but i want to keep the overall gt/cs look to the car. since i decoded the vin last week, its nothing special just a 289, c4 , p/s base coupe . but the shell is in quite good shape and want to make it into something , hence my plan for it . justin


You could always build a "Little Red". Somewhere around here is a URL for that car...

Paul N.

Canuck CSter
04/19/2005, 08:09 PM
Sorry forgot to add link..

I believe we will see alot of personal versions of the old as well as the cars, in are near future.

I'm in favor of this practice ever since I seen a CS convertable here in Canada in the early 90's, 4 sp 390 what a car, coulda lleft of the shelby ten spokes tho...For the chromed argents of coarse...


http://www.autothing.com/funthings/Auto%20News/2004%20Auto%20News/January/ATnews-JAN-04-008.htmI

Mosesatm
04/19/2005, 09:29 PM
Sorry forgot to add link..

I believe we will see alot of personal versions of the old as well as the cars, in are near future.

I'm in favor of this practice ever since I seen a CS convertable here in Canada in the early 90's, 4 sp 390 what a car, coulda lleft of the shelby ten spokes tho...For the chromed argents of coarse...


http://www.autothing.com/funthings/Auto%20News/2004%20Auto%20News/January/ATnews-JAN-04-008.htmI


That link didn't work for me. try this one.
http://www.autothing.com/funthings/Auto%20News/2004%20Auto%20News/January/ATnews-JAN-04-008.htm

Here is another one about the same car. If all else fails just Google "Little Red Shelby"

http://www.volocars.com/news1.html

PNewitt
04/20/2005, 05:12 PM
If you don't like red, you can use any color.

"House of Color" (Kolor?) makes cool street rod paint.

What? ya don't like ten -spokes? It's a Shelby required item!!

8)

Mosesatm
04/20/2005, 05:18 PM
Where are you guys seeing the ten spokes? Aren't those magnums I see or did I mix my medications again?

PNewitt
04/20/2005, 05:25 PM
Well, yeah, that '67 has Magnums on it, but it should have ten-spokes. Fred Goodell worked on that car. For the most part--Magnums (Ford) didn't show up until '69.

The Little Red coupe had ten -spokes, and Goodyear speedway tires.

Paul N.

Canuck CSter
04/20/2005, 05:55 PM
Love the 10 spokes rims on the shelbys...

I was refering to the convertable CS, I seen with Shelbys rims....


You know us canucks and our beer.

Just my thought but the 67-68 shelby converts may be the baddest cars I've ever seen....







If you don't like red, you can use any color.

"House of Color" (Kolor?) makes cool street rod paint.

What? ya don't like ten -spokes? It's a Shelby required item!!

8)

Mustanglvr
04/20/2005, 08:15 PM
Um, I don`t want to sound stupid but, whats a Canuck? Is it a town? ;D

68sunlitgold
04/21/2005, 01:52 AM
It's an honor bestowed to "Canadians".

Doug

rvrtrash
04/21/2005, 02:27 AM
I can't believe I'm doing this again, but I'm calling out the GT/CS guru on the question of the rims on the Shelby Conv. Those aren't Magnum 500's on that car, they're Kelsey-Hayes Magstars, which were the correct Shelby wheel for '67. Oh man, I can feel the bad ju-ju coming my way already. :o
Steve

hookedtrout
04/21/2005, 05:58 AM
I can't believe I'm doing this again, but I'm calling out the GT/CS guru on the question of the rims on the Shelby Conv. Those aren't Magnum 500's on that car, they're Kelsey-Hayes Magstars, which were the correct Shelby wheel for '67. Oh man, I can feel the bad ju-ju coming my way already. :o
Steve


Am I going to be safe in the same boat with you come June? ;)

Hook

PNewitt
04/21/2005, 11:24 AM
TOO LATE!

Bad Ju-Ju's coming to Idaho...you guys!!... The winds of distain from the GT/CS GURU are blowing your way, fellas...

Are you blind? Look at this photo. "Obviously" they are Magnums!...I mean, do you think someone would deliberately "photoshop" over these wheels to make them look like '67-Shelby-correct Kelsey Hayes wheels?

Geesch! Some people... <shaking head> ::)

Paul N!!!

hookedtrout
04/21/2005, 12:13 PM
Looks like they bought the wrong size as well. But I guess that's the way of the future generation. What would you guess...size 32 wheels? :o

Hook

rvrtrash
04/21/2005, 05:10 PM
How could I have been so stoopid? I should probably have my eyes and head examined. Sorry Paul, I should have looked closer. It's real obvious in the last picture. Hook, I think you'd be safer swimming through Lochsa Falls with the river at 10' then riding in the same raft as me. Now if I could just make this itch go away. ;D
Steve

hookedtrout
04/21/2005, 06:23 PM
That's all right Steve I'll take my chances. The funnest trip I've had through Lochsa Falls has been upside down in the raft anyway. :o

Hook

rvrtrash
04/22/2005, 09:25 AM
That's all right Steve I'll take my chances. The funnest trip I've had through Lochsa Falls has been upside down in the raft anyway. :o

Hook

Well, it seems we have a candidate for the King of the Boat Challenge. ;)
Steve

19HCS68
04/22/2005, 04:07 PM
Paul,

That pic has me ROFL! Too funny. ;D

Gary