robert campbell
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As for a "pile" sure that word means different things to different people. I have seen a "pile" of marti reports and other documentation during a couple of meetings with Paul over the years while reviewing stuff for the concours section of the book - of which I don't believe has been completed as of yet.
Don't know if this counts - just reporting
The pile I was refering to is the uphill battle to prove something that is not documented well. To prove that my car is something more than just a chop shop creation. The burden of proof for either my car or a debut car.
Well yes there were many "clones/fakes/copies" (what ever term you want to use) all the way back to the 70's. Not sure why so many, especially here in Calif where there were more than any place, but that is one of the issues I have been trying to track down (the group of Calif Spec convertibles in my area) for many years. But that is getting off track and has been mentioned on the site before - just an example of what was going on back then. Believe I must have looked at a dozen copies before 1985 and each were well used at that time but the vast majority had every specific piece in place like an original
Both these cars have original GT/CS parts. Not repops. Either there were multiple doner cars totaled so one could collect all the parts, or they were created when the parts were still available from Ford. IMHO very early, before they were thought to be valuable. Most accidents affect the front of the car, so the fiberglass could be could have come from one car. funny note. My car has Marchal's. Janice's car has Lucas. Again keep in mind two similar clones.
That IMHO is an interesting fact. Do both cars match their original door tags (code) and/or their buildsheets. Or (since they are so close to another) might this be a paint batch that was "off. Just a thought
My car did not have the door tag. Anniversary Gold is a real color that Ford offered. The paint code is odd. I have heard it called "Y5", but to my knowledge the 5 means black out hood. I have seen that in the Mach I series denoting their black out hoods. Y means Sunlit Gold. The registrar's first book has extensive verbiage on the existence of Anniversary Gold.
Yes I think that is a plan - likely the only plan at this time :lipsseal:
Jeff[/QUOTE]
Jeff,
This is so great! You are asking very good questions and not being adversarial. Seeking the truth! Just like I tried before with the registrar. Until he send me the words "never was, never will be" That was the nice part of his PM! Suppose on some level he is correct. It is great that the GT/CS community is helping me. What a great family we are! This is not a profit thing to me. If it was just my car, it would be very suspect. Two cars..... That is why I continue.
Rob
Don't know if this counts - just reporting
The pile I was refering to is the uphill battle to prove something that is not documented well. To prove that my car is something more than just a chop shop creation. The burden of proof for either my car or a debut car.
Well yes there were many "clones/fakes/copies" (what ever term you want to use) all the way back to the 70's. Not sure why so many, especially here in Calif where there were more than any place, but that is one of the issues I have been trying to track down (the group of Calif Spec convertibles in my area) for many years. But that is getting off track and has been mentioned on the site before - just an example of what was going on back then. Believe I must have looked at a dozen copies before 1985 and each were well used at that time but the vast majority had every specific piece in place like an original
Both these cars have original GT/CS parts. Not repops. Either there were multiple doner cars totaled so one could collect all the parts, or they were created when the parts were still available from Ford. IMHO very early, before they were thought to be valuable. Most accidents affect the front of the car, so the fiberglass could be could have come from one car. funny note. My car has Marchal's. Janice's car has Lucas. Again keep in mind two similar clones.
That IMHO is an interesting fact. Do both cars match their original door tags (code) and/or their buildsheets. Or (since they are so close to another) might this be a paint batch that was "off. Just a thought
My car did not have the door tag. Anniversary Gold is a real color that Ford offered. The paint code is odd. I have heard it called "Y5", but to my knowledge the 5 means black out hood. I have seen that in the Mach I series denoting their black out hoods. Y means Sunlit Gold. The registrar's first book has extensive verbiage on the existence of Anniversary Gold.
Yes I think that is a plan - likely the only plan at this time :lipsseal:
Jeff[/QUOTE]
Jeff,
This is so great! You are asking very good questions and not being adversarial. Seeking the truth! Just like I tried before with the registrar. Until he send me the words "never was, never will be" That was the nice part of his PM! Suppose on some level he is correct. It is great that the GT/CS community is helping me. What a great family we are! This is not a profit thing to me. If it was just my car, it would be very suspect. Two cars..... That is why I continue.
Rob
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