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BrandonB

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Ok my GT/CS has number matching VIN plate and Engine yet she has a 3 speed automatic sitting in her, yet when I ordered my MartiAutoWorks VIN paper. It says is has a Code 1 which is a 3 speed manual...please help me =( Im confused and slightly worried.
 

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What does your drivers door tag say? The "trans" should be listed as a number or letter.

1 = 3 spd manual
w = 3 spd auto (C4)
 

darb

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If the engine block numbers match the vehicle vin number, most likely somebody got a little frustrated with the Manual, and replaced it with an Automatic.

Although, you've got to be a little odd to want to replace a manual with an automatic, it happens.

I'd assume that if your engine does match your vin, then you do have the original engine, but someone just changed your vehicle over for their pleasure.

Looks like you'll be dropping out the transmission, and finding yourself a manual replacement if you want to go back to stock.

-Brad
 
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BrandonB

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wait wait wait whoooa. is there anyway to tell if I have the original tranny? If i do need a 3 spd man, how much would that cost to replace on average?
 

-=MUSTANG=-

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There is a reason you don't see many 3 speed manuals in mustangs. They're extremely weak. The fact that your car has a C4 auto is a good thing. The stock 3 speed manual that ford put in the mustangs was jokingly refered to as the paper transmission, it had the strength of a sheet of paper. I highly doubt any value of your car is lost because it now has a auto, and I could argue a case that the C4 currently in there has increased the value. If you really want to put the 3 speed manual back in there, it probably won't cost much, the trans could probably be found at a swap meet or online for next to nothing. The clutch pedal assembly will probably cost more. Since it was in there to begin with, everything should bolt right up.
 
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BrandonB

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Thanks guys for your help I'll just keep my auto =) i dont need a piece of paper in my car lol. thanks you guys for helping me I'd be lost with out this site I swear! :eek:
 

-=MUSTANG=-

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Good call Brandon. some day if you really want to put a manual back in, make it a toploader 4 speed, you'll be much happier.
 

StraightSix

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I disagree...


... put in a Tremec T-5 (5-speed manual like in modern 'Stangs, for those of you who don't know). You'll be VERY happy with that. I've heard lots of excellent reviews from folks who've had that done in their classic Mustangs. Of course, it's not cheap. The whole kit will run you around $2,000 from Modern Driveline.

-Winston
 
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BrandonB

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hrm...Six you always chime in with great ideas I swear...now if only I had 2,000. Anyone wanna help me start a fund rasier?
 

darb

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Sure, if I get 50% of your fundraiser for my paint job!

-Brad
 
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BrandonB

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Sounds like a deal we'll sell B&B cookies starting at 19.99 ea. chocolate, M&M oatmeal and sugar cookies!
 

StraightSix

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Brandon,

Just live with the C4 for now and save up for the T5. You can get it a little cheaper than $2000 if you source your own T5 (like from a junkyard) and just buy the conversion parts from a place like Modern Driveline.

-Winston
 

StraightSix

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Well, then just get a 3-speed and take it easy with it. They're not that weak. They'll hold up if you don't abuse them. In the eyes of a collector, I doubt that there would be any difference between a C4 and a T5 -- they're both incorrect for your car. The T5 may require some shifter hole "modification," however, which would be worse than just having a C4 in there. Or, you could compromise and get that 4-speed. I think they're tougher than a 3-speed but will bolt right up, (possibly) unlike a T5.

-Winston
 

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Just wanted to chime in and say my GT/CS has the original 3 speed manual tranny and it's been tough as nails with no problems ever. Not sure what kind of problems give the impression this is a weak transmission? I haven't been dragging it at the local strip but I've smoked the tires more often than I should and it's been as reliable as I could ever ask for?

Anyway that's my 2 cents on the Ford 3 speed and I do own one.

Hook
 

-=MUSTANG=-

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Any transmission should be capable of smoking 1 drive tire a few times, and if all you do is granny shift around town then the 3 speed manual should serve you fine. But try and get that 3 speed manual to live behind a V8 under real world driving conditions and you'll see why 3 speed manuals in V8 mustangs are rarer than hens teeth.
 
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