1968 power steering

[Powell]

O.K. I know this has been addressed before, but I really need some help with my power steering pump. I've looked and looked, but found no real good answers to the question, is there a reliable, rebuilt power steering pump out there. I've read on other mustang sites of the folks that have used up to 3 different pumps before coming up with one that works.
My car is an air-conditioned car and the last time I replaced the pump it was done from underneath the car. That was a real PITA I really want to do this one time and get it right. The car is not a concours car, but I would like to keep it as close as possible.

Please any amount of help will be greatly appreciated.

Ralph

 

[rvrtrash]

I think it's just luck of the draw on getting a good (or bad) pump. However, I will be down either this weekend or next, because my new grandson finally got here, and can make a little time to play grease monkey for you, if you want. I'll even buy you a pizza at Hot Lips in Raleigh Hills, just for the honor of turning a wrench on your car. You won't get an offer like that everyday! :wink:

Steve

 

[Powell]

So glad that you get to see your new grandson. I know it has been a trying several weeks, hope all is well with mother and baby. Wow what an offer, we will be gone this weekend, but back for next. Hope to be able to get together with you. I will not have the pump in place however. But the pizza or whatever will be on us.
Ralph and Karen

 

[Scott]

I just get mine reconditioned. Tried California Mustang's reco pumps? They are cheaper than my buddy theo and the one I just got works well and even has the FoMoCo stamps and looks stock (priority for me while not caring for concourse as it is a driver). My car also has AC & PS but is right hand drive too!

Pizza and spanners - throw in a beer and that is the perfect weekend!

 

[Powell]

There is always beer and pizza. Since you have an A/C car, have you ever tried to replace the pump from the top? I look at the A/C plumbing and think I would have to evacuate the system and remove a lot of hoses etc. to get to the power steering from the top but it would be a lot easier than from the bottom with the radiator hose, fuel pump and oil filter.

Ralph

 

[tomcwarren]

Ralph,

I replaced my PS pump w/a Cardone recon last year. I also have A/C (newer Sanden compressor). I unbolted it front and back, and then just tied it back with a coat hanger - you can push it back over the valve cover/intake manifold quite a bit. No need to remove or evac the A/C hoses (at least w/the smaller Sanden compressor).

On my rebuild, the pump wasn't the problem - the control valve was hinky (sticking). I had it reconditioned by an outfit in Texas - Precision Products:

http://www.precisionproductssteering.com/

Excellent job, really top-notch. Lots of great info on the site, too.

The only other hassle was getting the right hoses underneath (high/low pressure to/from pump, and the 2 little hoses to the power ram), and getting them to not leak. But now I have a stock P/S system that's at least as good as when it left the factory 41 years ago - no squeaks, one-finger turns, etc. Well worth the effort. :grin:

Hope this helps,

Tom

 

[franklinair]

My C/S still has the original type one lunger compressor. I take the P/S pump loose working from the top, and lower it out the bottom. When I did my '68 convertible, I replaced ALL P/S hoses precautionary. Got all the hoses from NPD (sorry Ron) and they all fit nicely. The 2 stubby ones on the P/S Control Valve are a little cantankerous, but just take your time, and they'll go on OK. Keep lots of rags handy to mop up your mess!

Neil

 

[Powell]

Ralph,

I replaced my PS pump w/a Cardone recon last year. I also have A/C (newer Sanden compressor). I unbolted it front and back, and then just tied it back with a coat hanger - you can push it back over the valve cover/intake manifold quite a bit. No need to remove or evac the A/C hoses (at least w/the smaller Sanden compressor).

On my rebuild, the pump wasn't the problem - the control valve was hinky (sticking). I had it reconditioned by an outfit in Texas - Precision Products:

http://www.precisionproductssteering.com/

Excellent job, really top-notch. Lots of great info on the site, too.

The only other hassle was getting the right hoses underneath (high/low pressure to/from pump, and the 2 little hoses to the power ram), and getting them to not leak. But now I have a stock P/S system that's at least as good as when it left the factory 41 years ago - no squeaks, one-finger turns, etc. Well worth the effort. :grin:

Hope this helps,

Tom

Thank you Tom, I see from the link that they also do the power steering pump, but the problem is they are only wholesale. Do you have a connection to send the pump to and get it done? I believe all of my hoses are fine, but plan to replace the control valve and ram at the same with new ones from R&R (Clubpro).
Again thank you for the imput.

Ralph

 

[tomcwarren]

Sorry, Ralph. I was working from memory - Precision Products is the commercial/wholesale/dealer arm of the business - you want to go to:

http://www.stangerssite.com/

That's the retail site (same guy). Click on the first tab (Steering Information) for a ton of info, advice, diagrams, etc. Really great site.

Note that if you're going w/a rebuilt pump, valve and ram, it's wise to also replace the hoses, unless they are absolutely perfect (flares, fittings and hoses look like they just came from the factory). I know I spent a lot of hours getting a perfect, leak-free system, and _any_ imperfection in the fittings and/or mating surfaces will eventually lead to a leak/drip. See the 'Leaks & Troubleshooting' section under 'Steering Information' on the site above.

You've been warned! :wink:

Tom

 

[Midnight Special]

...Especially down in the power valve area. Use a mirror on the ground or get to where you can see the connections and tubes while cycling the steering stop to stop (with car on the ground) to make sure tubes don't chafe against each other or pitman arm. Loosen and adjust the angle of those connections where necessary. Otherwise - look forward to "pin hole" leaks in the tubing within a few hundred miles...

 

[csgt428]

Sounds like you are going the extra mile and replacing just about everything... I had a similar problem w my 70 Torino Cobra. After putting a second pump on and having the same problem I went to a hydraulic shop and had them make me a pump pressure tester for about $30. Sure enough after testing my old pump which I put back on I found out it was fine. I replaced the control valve next and the system works fine now.

 

[Powell]

Tom, Thank you, the stangerssite is absolutely what I need. And yes every one has convenced me to go with new hoses while I am doing the job.
Again thank you, thank you, thank you!
Ralph

 

[clubpro]

Ralph,

I found the info on the gentleman that rebuilt my p.s. pump. He did a fantastic job and even includes the correct date coded ID tag. I don't remember what he charged, but I remember it being very fair. Bob use to work for a high end Shelby restoration shop and really knows his stuff. He also rebuilt my power brake booster. Here is his info:

Bob Eliezer

reliezer@comcast.net

Cheers,

Ron

 

[CougarCJ]

Ralph,

I found the info on the gentleman that rebuilt my p.s. pump. He did a fantastic job and even includes the correct date coded ID tag. I don't remember what he charged, but I remember it being very fair. Bob use to work for a high end Shelby restoration shop and really knows his stuff. He also rebuilt my power brake booster. Here is his info:

Bob Eliezer

reliezer@comcast.net

Cheers,

Ron

I know Bob. I was supplying him with core parts several years ago.
He and his brother used to drag race inline 6 cylinders.

 

[Powell]

Thanks to all that have provided information here, it really helps. Ron did you get my order for the control valve and steering cylinder?

Ralph