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case12

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Well, I finally got my GTCS out yesterday. It hit the 80's here in Chicago (but went back down to the 50's today). The thumbs up on the road, and the smell of oil and gas just make it all worth while (my wife says it stinks, but she doesnt get it).

Someone asked me about my license frame "One of 3867". They asked me which one was mine in production - number 1, 2.... or number 3867? I thought it was a good question - but I don't know the answer.

I wonder if we, or Paul, have a way of knowing the count, or if it is possible to find (Marti wont give out VIN numbers). Might be a worthwhile project to figure out that yours is number 1000 out of 3867, or something like that? Ideas?

Of course, the HCS folk just have to figure out 251!

Casey
 
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PFSlim

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Casey

I think that is a great idea. I would love to know what number mine was. Just don't know how to get there from here. Congrats on getting your car out. Thus far, I have driven about 400 miles on my car. We get alittle nicer weather here in Kansas City.

Paul
 
390cs68rcode

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until we get ALL the CS/HCS vin numbers from Marti there would be no way to know what number each one was built compared to the other CS/HCS's.
 
somethingspecial

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I think it may be harder than we think to pin point which car in sequence they were. The cars were assigned VINs, but were built out of sequence, or so it seems from productions dates, If I'm wrong, (Which my wife tells me oh so often) I apologize. Just my thoughts on the matter. Mike
 
nfrntau

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No problem,
Paul said we have more than 1000 GT/CS's in the registry now. That narrows it down. The guy with the lowest vin number in the registry is between #1 and 2868 (give or take a few). The guy with the highest vin number is between #100X and 3867.

Does this help??????
 
rvrtrash

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When the new registry comes out you could give them a ballpark number. See where yours is in the registry and multipy by 4. "It's about the two thousandth one made". For most people that would be good enough. They probably don't care if it was the 1843rd CS to roll off the line.
Steve
 
p51

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rvrtrash said:
When the new registry comes out you could give them a ballpark number. See where yours is in the registry and multipy by 4. "It's about the two thousandth one made". For most people that would be good enough. They probably don't care if it was the 1843rd CS to roll off the line.
Steve
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The above is a very good way to get an idea of what number your car is assuming that the VINs came out in order - lower being earlier (is this the case?). A somewhat more accurate way based on the above would be the following.

With 1000 out of 3867 cars accounted for its a pretty good bet that the registered ones are evenly distributed out of the total number made. So, the
(rank_in_registery)/(total_in_registery) = (rank_in_production)/(total_in_production)

You know rank_in_registry (based on VIN), total_in_registry, total_in_production so you can solve rank_in_production. My guess is that it should be ~+/-3 of actual rank. A statistican would say "with a margin of error of +/-xx%" which sounds much more official :wink:
 
miller511

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Maybe we could get our wonderful admin Jon Hanna to put up one of those mortgage calculator type Java Applets where you enter your VIN and it spits out the sequence number of your GTCS/HCS...wouldn't be completely accurate, but close.

Data needed-
4118 total GTCS/HCS production
118687 earliest VIN (from Paul's first book)
171998 last VIN (from Paul's first book)
53311 range of VINs
12.94585 range divided by total GTCS/HCS production
Enter your VIN ...156609
your VIN minus earliest VIN =VINDIFF
VINDIFF divided by 12.94585
Sequence Number equals 2929

What do you think, Jon? In your spare time ;-)

-Jeff
 
Mosesatm

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The build date idea won't work. According to my Marti report the date on the door tag is the scheduled build date, not the actual date. So unless everyone orders and submits Marti reports we won't know which car was built when. Running the calculations from the VINs should get us close enough.

Do we know how many batches of GT/CSs were made? Were they built every week? Every month? Every 3 days?
 
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This could be done...well, sorta, on our own.

We would have to factor in the total number of Mustangs made from Feb-July '68, and then subtrace the Cougars on the line.

I've been told that there were "GT/CS days" at the Milpitas factory. Maybe two to five days at a time, depending on the orders.

The biggest "surges" in production happened in Mid-Feb and March. It would take some real backward detective work.

Maybe we could "calculate this right here on this thread??

Paul N.
 
miller511

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Where's that "Way Back" machine when you need it? Or Doc and Marty to help get us back to 1968 Milpitas in the DeLorean.
 
Mosesatm

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Paul, I assume your new book will list the VINs and scheduled build dates, but are you going to list the actual build dates for the cars with Marti reports? That information alone may give us enough information to get a fairly good handle on the batch dates.
 
p51

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PNewitt said:
This could be done...well, sorta, on our own.

We would have to factor in the total number of Mustangs made from Feb-July '68, and then subtrace the Cougars on the line.

I've been told that there were "GT/CS days" at the Milpitas factory. Maybe two to five days at a time, depending on the orders.

The biggest "surges" in production happened in Mid-Feb and March. It would take some real backward detective work.

Maybe we could "calculate this right here on this thread??

Paul N.
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Paul

Is it true that the VIN numbers of cars are in the same sequence (not necessarily consecutive) as their build dates with the lowest having the earliest build date? If so, then knowing the ranking of one's VIN in the set of VINs in the GT/CS registry will give one a pretty accurate idea of what number car they have. For that we'd need the list of VINs in the registry to determine where each of ours fell.

James
 
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James is on the right track. I'll have to sort this out in my head, but we DO have enough to get a pretty good idea what is when and where at what time.

I would like to see the VIN listings for the Cougars built at Milpitas, too, and see a correlation, especially with the X-Code, GT-390 and 428 cars.

I'll get back to you.

Paul N.

p.s. I do have a friend with a DeLorean....lemme see...I'll need a couple of gigawatts, and a long pole. When I get there, I'll pick up Little Red, and the Green Hornet; and the 428 CS/HCS cars, too.
 
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