. SAAC Officially Adds GT/CS

[Perkchiro]

Casey, it wasn't my intent to change the topic of your thread. I've stayed out of the fray regarding Tim and Paul and I haven't taken sides either way. I do think that Paul "went negative" on us and our website with his comments on SAAC. I think the fine folks of the CS family deserve to know what Paul thinks of us.

 

[Doug]

As I see it anybody who slams this site should not profit from its members; one might say “don’t bite the hand that feeds you”.

 

[mherman2]

Hey there,

I will say this. I am a member of SAAC, MCA, and Team Shelby. I have always been interested in GT CS' and High Country Specials. I was always hoping these cars would come together. Not sure of the personal history but what you will find on the SAAC site is guys with more mustang knowledge, shelby knowledge, 289,302, 390, and 428 knowledge than anywhere. There is enough information there to keep you busy for a long time. It's all about the cars, the shows, and the hobby If you ask a question, people pounce on it with an answer just like here. I just joined this site today because I saw the posts on the SAAC forum. I will buy a CS or HCS or both in the next 30 days, doing all my research now. All good knowledgeable guys over there that are happy to help.

Mike

 

[CaptDave]

GT/CS guys:

Drop by and visit the SAAC-Forum. It's a fun place.

http://www.saacforum.com/

If you're in the area our national convention is just north of Pittsburgh this year. Aug 6-9 2009

http://saacforum.com/index.php?topic=4249.0

http://www.saac.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=174&Itemid=100

Please, if you can make it bring your GT/CS to SAAC-34. Beverun Wampum, PA.

http://www.beaverun.com/

CaptDave

 

[CaptDave]

SAAC-33 NJMP (NJ Motorsports Park) Millville

I live in Millville about 5 miniutes from the track. A great event last year, Aug 15-17 2008.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZTlgJe5o7g&feature=related
Rick, Dan, Phil and CaptDave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyfW5wqWguc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXSnC1UZM_Y&NR=1

A great time was had by all.

CaptDave

 

[admin]

I was hoping to keep this thread about SAAC.

Most of you know I try to stick to topics relating to our GT/CS and HCS, and have worked hard to learn more and to let more people know about our unique car in many different ways. I am hoping we can do that with SAAC, and make some friends there too.

Well said Casey and I totally agree. Let's stay on topic and move forward rather than backward.

Thanks!

 

[Mosesatm]

What exactly does, "SAAC has now added the GT/CS to their site..." mean, in specific terms.

Shelby Amercian Automotive Club (SAAC) has now added the GT/California Special to their site due to the Shelby and Little Red heritage of our cars!!!!!

I know some people aren't into SAAC and I dont mean to imply everybody should be. But, I was always hoping SAAC would some day recognize our unique car for its Shelby heritage and now it has happened. Rich Kopek, SAAC Director, was the first one to post. I added a few things too.

This is another cool way for our cars to be associated and become known by the public - first it was MCA taking a big interest in us and even changing their judging rules for us, and now by SAAC taking interest in us.

It's neat to mingle with the Shelby folk and read some of their inputs too - especially as the GT/CS uses the exact same parts as the 68 Shelby (remember, from the blueprints I found online a few years ago).

Anyway, if it's your kind of thing, go check it out:

http://saacforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=386d3a1157fb55649554086e4b837116&board=52.0

Thanks, Casey

 

[CaptDave]

Shelby Autos coming to SAAC-34

The gang from Team Shelby will be attending SAAC-34.

http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=42364

CaptDave

 

[case12]

What exactly does, "SAAC has now added the GT/CS to their site..." mean, in specific terms.

Hi Arlie, I don't for sure what it all means yet. I know they have added GT/CS & HCS to the forum and are planning a cover page and article for an upcoming Shelby American Magazine. We are also included to come and be a part of the SAAC convention. Rick Kopec, SAAC Director, opened the door for the opportunities to participate at all levels. As for registry, Paul is recognized as the GT/CS registrar both at this site and at SAAC - he has a long history with SAAC, including helping to discover the Green Hornet.

Casey

 

[robert campbell]

Capt Dave,
Thanks for the welcome. Jon, our admin guy and site designer, has built the number 1 site for the preservation and history of the GT/CS. Many (myself a 1968 GT-500 KR in the mid 1970’s. Yes I kick myself daily) had the pleasure of owning a Shelby sometime in their career. And this site has many original owners. John McGilvary is the original owner (truly amazing) of a 428 CJ GT/CS. But, I bet your site has some original owners also. Casey is starting a collection of a lot of great stuff on the GT/CS. Sometimes an original owner can confirm that obscure factory bolt or deviation. Especially in 1968 cars with rare drive trains.

What a great step to join the GT/CS with the Shelby lineage. Both old and new! We have purist and modified guys. A couple guys pushing their cars into the tens!! But what we really have a site full of enthusiasm for Fords!! I bleed Ford blue as do many others.

Paul is the best guy to write your story! He has the most history on the GT/CS. He has worked relentlessly over the years to document it from inception to the new cars. We as GT/CS owners deeply appreciate his efforts.

One area besides history, is in-depth help on the idiosyncrasies of the older cars. We have engine builders, electrical specialists, modified engine guys, carburetor specialists, (I assist a nation wide restorer of Shelby’s out of Bremerton Washington to tune in both FE and Windsor motors and re-bush/rebuild Holley carbs). One member (MechanicalGuy) has actual Ford assembly line experience in his past. Feel free to tell your members to post a question. You will find sincere help to the best of our knowledge and ability. I personally love the tough problem and will respond as best I can.

Thanks for opening the door between the two sites!! We all share a common thread! Performance FORDS!!

Rob

 

[Perkchiro]

Did I break some code of conduct here? What's more pertinent to the GT/CS site and SAAC sites and this thread than our registrar Paul Newitt and his comments regarding either?

 

[robert campbell]

Steve,
I DO NOT feel you did. I am not surprised that Paul said what he did. Jon and Casey are correct, and we will move forward despite the negativity on Paul's part.

rob

 

[Mustanglvr]

CaptDave, would you please change your avatar. There are several ladies that are members of this site that may take offense. Thank you

 

[Mosesatm]

Did I break some code of conduct here? What's more pertinent to the GT/CS site and SAAC sites and this thread than our registrar Paul Newitt and his comments regarding either?

Steve, I also agree that Paul's comments were out of line and you mentioning them here was not off topic.

That said, I also think that this thread is at a point where it could quickly turn overly negative and as a group we should make sure it doesn't get out of control, thus proving Paul right.

Geez, I must be getting old and mellow to write such tripe!:grin:

 

[Perkchiro]

No tripe there Arlie. I appreciate your thoughts. I'm a realist and Paul's words were factual and I too think they were out of line. It's fine with me to end it here. It was just my intent to keep the populace informed and not to "stir the pot".

 

[aemoo28]

"Ah hem! And hello. Everyone take their seats. Another show is about to begin! In this corner..."

Excuse us. We're just a little (a lot!) offended with how Master Paul left us. So everyone send their car info to me. NO, just kidding!

Wait, why are we wanting to be a part of Team Shelby? We are Specials. (From the girl who chose the Special over the Shelby.)

 

[Mosesatm]

"Ah hem! And hello. Everyone take their seats. Another show is about to begin! In this corner..."

Excuse us. We're just a little (a lot!) offended with how Master Paul left us. So everyone send their car info to me. NO, just kidding!

Wait, why are we wanting to be a part of Team Shelby? We are Specials. (From the girl who chose the Special over the Shelby.)

Bolding mine.

Amy, that is an excellent question. I, for one, see no reason to go over to SAAC and be the bastard cousin. My hunch, (this is only a hunch) is that many of the members over there have no interest in us or our cars, and may resent the fact that some Shelby wannabes are now part of their group.

Yes, being part of SAAC will increase the exposure of our cars but it in the long run it may end up being the wrong kind of exposure.

 

[case12]

As I said, the SAAC thing might not be for everyone. But, I also dont think we as a GT/CS family should shun it.

We have hard evidence that the 1968 Shelby and GT/CS were developed together, by the same people, and signed off by Shelby chief engineer, Fred Goodell. Even Fred himself in a SAAC interview said he was responsible for the GT/CS.

So, I dont think we are illegitimate in being associated with SAAC. It is a factual and historical fit.

It's just another avenue for our great cars. Frankly, when I am at car shows, I usually have the Shelby guys coming over and drooling over my GT/CS - they dont shun us.

Thanks, Casey

 

[Doug]

As I said, the SAAC thing might not be for everyone. But, I also dont think we as a GT/CS family should shun it.

We have hard evidence that the 1968 Shelby and GT/CS were developed together, by the same people, and signed off by Shelby chief engineer, Fred Goodell. Even Fred himself in a SAAC interview said he was responsible for the GT/CS.

So, I dont think we are illegitimate in being associated with SAAC. It is a factual and historical fit.

It's just another avenue for our great cars. Frankly, when I am at car shows, I usually have the Shelby guys coming over and drooling over my GT/CS - they dont shun us.

Thanks, Casey

I agree with Casey 100% - let's just enjoy whatever SAAC has to offer. I don't think that we should "slam" SAAC in anyway; lets just share information and the love for our respective cars. All this being said IMHO.

 

[CaptDave]

It's just another avenue for our great cars. Frankly, when I am at car shows, I usually have the Shelby guys coming over and drooling over my GT/CS - they dont shun us.

Thanks, Casey

Come over and see the GT/CS section of the SAAC-Forum. You may be surprised. It seems to be a big hit.

I don't have a Shelby, never did. But I did build with my brother 3 1967 GT/CS clones in the very early 80's. We loved the car (still have all 3). Not many actual GT/CS's in NJ at that time and I couldn't afford a Shelby. In 1984 I entered my 1967 Mustang GTA I restored at SAAC-10 in NJ. It was the 2nd fastest on the track at Pocono Motor Speedway, PA that day in the Mustang, Shelby, Boss (Falcon) group. The next day it took a first place at the show in the Mustang Category (Mustangs were all in one big giant group back then). I had the only car to run at Pocono and receive a first place.

I think you will see we are a diverse group at SAAC.

CaptDave